Of course the problem with relying on a Snap drive (or using a similar type philosophy of backing up to a hard disk located within the network) is what do you do should you have a fire, break-in, etc? You have to have someway of getting the backup off-site. We still primarily rely on Tape (DLT is our current flavor of choice) and once you explain to the customer that yes this solution is going to cost you about $1,500 in hardware, software and media but what is the cost to you should you have a fire, damaged data (and the mirror set on your current setup is going to "mirror" the same corruption!) or a theft in the middle of the night. We have them rotate ten tapes M-F so that they can go back two weeks and to also rotate in a monthly copy. They are set to use the cleaning tape the day they use the tape that will go off site for the monthly backup.

Using Veritas I have the job email both the client and ourselves so that we can see that the jobs are running and can call the client to schedule a visit if they are not.

We got called in to help a client of another company a few weeks ago that was using a Snap drive for the type of backup you are describing. His Quickbooks file had been damaged and the work they were doing on the file to try and "repair" it caused all the backup copies on their snap drive to also be damaged. I was able to use R-Studio to recover an older "deleted" copy of a Quickbooks created backup he had made of his data back in April and he then had to spend the next two weeks trying to recreate the rest of his books. He know looks at the $1,500 cost to put in a "real" backup solution as being very cheap insurance.

At 08:34 AM 10/4/2004, you wrote:
We've been using a Snap server, from quantum.  It's an external hardrive
which comes with back up software to be installed on the client: it
automatically backs up files upon any changes, keeps a history of 3 levels
of back up.
It works pretty well on a windows environment. - I guess there are similar
solutions

http://www.snapappliance.com
Elliott Bujan

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I started using paragon.ag drive copy for imaging. Works well. Also, see http://www.nu2.nu/pebuilder/ for a cd boot disk to restore the images. These two are a perfect combination. I cloned about 14 workstations Saturday in about 2 hours.

John Cesta

On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 14:58:02 -0400, Troy D. Hilton wrote:
> Hello All,
> Need to pick some brains here. I've got a client looking to put in
> a small network of 1 server and 7 workstations. The server will be
> running Windows 2000 Server. I need to install some backup software
> that easy for them to manage: checking logs, switching tapes, etc.
> Yes, I could simply use Windows Backup but I know how they are and
> how the software works. Too much work should a tape get full or a
> job fail. I don't want to spend the money for Veritas BackupExec
> but I need something that is simple to use. Any suggestions?
> Please respond offline to the address below.
> Thanks!
> Troy D. Hilton
> SofWerks LLC.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 302-529-1961

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