Re: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :(

[Serge]

We will start evaluating MDaemon (Windows, www.altn.com, which we are a 
resseler and have been selling many to small clients, we will evaluate in 
large installation) and Exim (Free, Unix, www.exim.org)


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "R. Lee Heath" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Darin Cox" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 6:40 PM
Subject: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :(


Reply to: Darin Cox
     Re: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :( on Monday 1:11:03 
PM

Ditto. This will permanently end our use and support of Imail
in the future.
--
Roger Heath
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.rleeheath.com
----- Copy of Original Message(s): -----
DC> Agreed,
DC> We maintain our own and several customers' installations of IMail.  I 
can
DC> say without a doubt, that all of us will be looking for a different 
product
DC> when it comes time for another upgrade if Ipswitch does not change 
this
DC> strategy and continue to offer IMail separately at prices comparable 
to what
DC> they have been in the past.

DC> The Collaboration Suite is exorbitantly priced, well beyond 
justification,
DC> and not at all reasonably priced for small businesses and OSPs.

DC> Darin.
DC> ----- Original Message ----- 
DC> From: "Martin Schaible" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
DC> To: "John Carter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
DC> Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 1:59 PM
DC> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :(

DC> Hi,
DC> Last week I had a very long phone call with ipswitch about ICS and the
DC> future of IMail.
DC> So, Ipswitch moves to the direction "buy nothing or everthing". The 
really
DC> big shock is
DC> this, that an normal subscription will nore more be available.

DC> As an small ISP, we can't afford an upgrade to ICS. Simple like that.
DC> We made a quick phone poll to our customers and everbody was upset 
about
DC> this new strategy.

DC> Mostly all customers ha choosen IMail as a simple, powerful but 
affordable
DC> Mail-Server.
DC> About 50% are running AntiVirus Standard, the others have an seperate
DC> Antivirus Gateway.

DC> As an gold partner of ipswitch, i'm really afraid to lose most of our
DC> IMail-customers.
DC> Our customers are *not* willing to buy things, they don't need.
DC> I hope, that tons of customers worldwide are also upset and ipswitch 
will
DC> follow to the customer
DC> needs and not the dreams of the marketing department.

DC> Or in other words: Give us IMail Pro back, including the simple
DC> subscriptions and
DC> offer all Gadgets seperatly.
DC> To answer some questions, before they will occur:
DC> - AntiVirus Pro or standard is included. IMail without any AntiVirus
DC> solution is not supported.
DC> - "Classic" Subscriptions are no longer available.
DC> - ICS is bound to certain numbers of seats or unlimited.
DC> ============================================
DC> Am Montag, 25. Oktober 2004 um 19:31 schrieben Sie:
Actually my concerns are more about the future life of Imail as separate
stand-alone email server.  Or will it become so integrated into the
Collaboration package that one will be forced to the package?  Also will
Imail development/improvements take a back seat to the package?

John

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John 
Tolmachoff
(Lists)
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 12:16 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :(
Importance: High

I don't believe this.

Instead of creating an add-on package, the collaboration package is an 
all
encompassing package, including Imail, Premium Anti-Virus and Killer
DC> Webmail
templates.

This is crazy.

You are being asked to pay for Imail again along with paying for 
"Premium
Anit-Virus" even if you already have Imail and do not want the 
Anti-Virus.

John Tolmachoff
Engineer/Consultant/Owner
eServices For You


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