I have to say thanks to Len and his IMGate, I just got my IMGate server up last week and it's made a BIG difference in my users' perception of IMails web interface speed. I also cut WAY down on the IMail servers resource usage. I'm going on the way and see approach; I think I could get another two to three years at lease out of my IMail 8.x server, so I don't see the big rush that everyone seams to have about jumping ship. Even when my support runs out (and yes I have IMails premium antivirus), I will contact Symantec directly to try and renew our Symantec engine and virus defs directly (we use Symantec for our entire antivirus engine, and I hope they will just continue my subscription). If that doesn't work I could add Delude or MXGuard to regain antivirus filtering at the mail server level. Two or Three years gives me a lot of time to figure out and test other mail server products without this "red alert" feeling I'm getting from the list. This is just my option, and may not fit others dilemma. This is not to say I'm NOT VERY disappointed in IPSwitchs direction, even though we are a corporate client with 60 users in-house and 138 external locations, we don't need the other components they are forcing on us. I went with IMail because of simple windows based web mail interface and the price fit exactly what we were looking for. If it had cost this much in the first time, I would have gone with M$ Exchange (I HATE EXCHANGE). I would also like to time this time to thank Len, Scott, Sandy, and others that have helped me over the past few years. I hope they don't close off this channel of communication.
Thanks for all again. Christopher Checca Packard Transport, Inc. IT Department 24021 South Municipal Dr PO Box 380 Channahon, IL. 60410 815 467 9260 815 467 6939 Fax [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.packardtransport.com -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Len Conrad Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 8:54 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :( >Looks good, but I don't see that is support SMTP Authentication and, at a minimum, with CRAM-MD5. SMTP AUTH plain is stupid. I bet, with no pleasure at all, that people will appreciate just how solid "basic IMail" is as they try to migrate to 2nd and 3rd tier products that Imail has beaten solidly for years. eg, I've helped a lot of ISPs with DNS and mail problems over the years, and have had to tangle with some these 2nd rate mail packages. Made me appreciate Imail that much more. One memorable beauty was somethingMax, mailmax or smartmax, that only logged to the screen, not to a file. "Little" gotcha's like that make Imail's mediocre logging (vs Unix logging) look awfully darn good. People who come in here saying "x product only $199" give me shudders. Make your own complete checklist of what you have with Imail, then go try to match it elsewhere. Don't believe the other products "vs Imail" checklist. I strongly suggest that people hang on to their Imail products they have now, put off the $$cost and inevitable customer disruption of replacing it, for as long as possible. The more you use your current Imail, the cheaper it gets. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it". "Don't cut off your nose to spite your face (or Ipswitch)". As I've already suggested, this disruption is an opportunity for windows-only people to ease into unix-only-for-smtp/dns by implementing free IMGate (it will prolong the life of your Imail box, hard and soft), get your feet wet (not feet to the fire) with *nix with immediate payback, and then leverage that *nix initiation into building your own opensource mailserver, but many months from now (absolutely no rush). There are many mature, solid choices for imap, pop, ldap, webmail (with apache for http), a-v, anti-abuse, with tons of how-to's, add-on's, web admin/user interfaces, and mailing lists just as helpful as the Imail list. But, there not much choice for MTA. It's gotta be postfix :)) When I started IMGate (5 years ago), I chose postfix since it was much easier to configure than sendmail and qmail, and that is still true, while postfix has no compromises in functionality or speed. Len _____________________________________________________________________ http://IMGate.MEIway.com : free anti-spam gateway, runs on 1000's of sites To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/
