Hi Dev,

> If I were Merak, I would put together a special
> low-cost "welcome" package just for the hundreds of
> Imail customers bolting Ipswitch in the next 3 months.
Ask Merak ;-)

I visited their webpage and my first impression about the *modular* products was really
positive.

But i don't give up. I hope, that our posts are reflecting the typical, mainstream
thinking about the new strategy and somebody at ipswitch takes this serious.

Somebody wrote, that the development of IMail was not forced this year. This is really
true. I think, that ipswitch used all resources to build up the new ICS. All bug 
reports
and feature requests are disappeared somewhere.

This opens a new question, indepenedly of ICS: Does ipswitch move IMail, �hh, ICS to a
next level? At this time, IMail has a lot of concurrent products, eg. merak, 
mailenable.

Actually IMail has an big bug in the antispam engine since month. No bugfix is 
available.
SPF is already not supported and a few other things.

I asked ipswitch for a roadmap a few times. The answer was: "we don't have one". I 
don't
believe this ;-)

Before spending a huge amount of money into ICS, general questions about the future and
support of the product must be asked. The price moved now from a VW Beetle to an BMW. 
The
criterias for an evaluation in this price range are much more heavier.

ICS is now "version 1". OK, the base is IMail and other well known peaces of software, 
but
i have no clue about the collaboration module. I know, that it is a 3Party Software.

Ipswitch runs a high risk to fail, i'm sure.

At the End, The poor thing is this: We spent a lot of time in IMail. As a gold partner 
i have no
problems with that. With this new strategy i feel like "shot in the back" (We say that 
in
german...)



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Am Dienstag, 26. Oktober 2004 um 01:53 schrieben Sie:

> Unfreakinbelievable. I am stunned at Ipswitch
> arrogance.

> I'd bet Ipswitch Product Managers tonight are
> completely stunned by the negative list responses--and
> a recrimination earthquake (and major CYA) will occur
> tomorrow morning at Ipswitch headquarters.

> If I were Merak, I would put together a special
> low-cost "welcome" package just for the hundreds of
> Imail customers bolting Ipswitch in the next 3 months.

> Anyways, we will also be dumping Imail in the future.
> Anybody have actual hands-on experience (good or bad)
> with a Merak installation?

> Merak sounds very powerful and a good value, but there
> is no substitute for the experiences of someone who has
> administered it in a production environment.

> Anybody?

> Dev



> Monday, October 25, 2004, 1:03:32 PM, you wrote:

MHoS>> Merak looks pretty impressive.  Thanks for the lead!

MHoS>> -----Original Message-----
MHoS>> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MHoS>> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
MHoS>> Behalf Of Chris Moody
MHoS>> Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 1:27 PM
MHoS>> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
MHoS>> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :(


MHoS>> I know I am going to have a lot of
MHoS>> explaining to do to several customer
MHoS>> that
MHoS>> I sold on Imail. :(

MHoS>> Looks like a bunch of us are learning Linux and Postfix
MHoS>> http://www.postfix.org/ or (*shutter*)
MHoS>> going to Merak Mail
MHoS>> http://www.merakmailserver.com/

MHoS>> ----- Original Message -----
MHoS>> From: "Bill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
MHoS>> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
MHoS>> Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 1:58 PM
MHoS>> Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] Collaboration is now available :(


>>> I just got off the phone with Ipswitch, and it is absolutely true --
MHoS>> IMail
>>> will no longer be offered as a stand-alone product.  This is the
MHoS>> ultimate
MHoS>> in
>>> arrogance, and shows a complete disregard for their existing customer
MHoS>> base.
>>>
>>> I will be looking to replace IMail, and would be very interested to
MHoS>> receive
>>> any recommendations.
>>>
>>> Bill Puetz
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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