Thanks Jill, You have confirmed that THE EMPEROR HAS NO CLOTHES.
This is the best entertainment I've had in years - I can't believe that this drastic changes and write-off of your entire existing customer base is based solely on a packinging/bundling of existing products. There is no new functionality! Anybody that wants shared calendars and outlook can simply buy workgroupproducts on their own and get the exact same capability. This is such a joke! Maybe if you had waited until you had some real integration you could at least claim ICS was a new product with some unique value, but a bundle of existing stuff? Not wanting to play product manager myself, but it sure looks like: 1. The attempt to use the bynari connector for collaboration failed. This was what the original "add-on" stuff was suppoed to use, but you pushed back the release most likely because of technical glitches. 2. In a knee-jerk reaction, somebody high-up the corporate ladder demanded a recovery plan so voila - Ipswitch cuts an oem deal with workgroup products, lashes the stuff together with a install wrapper and then shoves it out the door with a huge price hike. -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jill Jones Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 2:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] Collaboration tools exposed Hi James, You are correct in your assessment that this edition of ICS wraps the components of the suite by an installer. In the coming releases of ICS, you will see more and more integration of the different components. At this point there is some integration in the ability to import IMail users into WorkgroupShare. As for your assessment of the pricing - you are referring to the crossgrade prices - which, do not have a IMail component, as any customer that is eligible for the crossgrade already has IMail. The value we are providing then, comes from paying close to the retail price of WorkgroupShare and getting IMail, IIM, AV and Service thrown in. Best regards, Jill -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of James P. Bednarz Sent: Wednesday, October 27, 2004 4:36 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [IMail Forum] Collaboration tools exposed I downloaded the trial of ICS and as we all suspected it is simply an install of Imail, IpswitchIM, and Workgroupshare (www.workgroupshare.com) 3 separate programs connected by an installer. The 3 software programs are not tied together one bit by code and do not rely on each other for anything. The other installers install Imail 8.13 and IM 2.01 individually If you go to www.workgroupshare.com you can buy the collaboration software component 250 user license for $2995. Its almost as if Ipswitch is selling Imail, and IM as a cheap add on to this workgroupshare software. All of this just makes you want to say What in tarnation is going on here? The fall of Ipswitch could be as bad as the fall of the New York Yankees! James P. Bednarz Information Technology Manager Kaestle Boos Associates, Inc. Teamwork Rules! To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/
