Bill, I feel the need to respond from the corporate side of the equation. You mentioned the ISP side and symantec, but we as a corporate user do not wish to use symantec also. We tried it when we first purchase Imail. You might thnk symantec unlimited is valueable, but it did not do it for us. It was cumbersome, did not block as well as what we have now with Mcafee + declude. We also already pay a healthy sum to NAI for their enterprise package. For us, bundling it in only makes us pay double for something we already own (virus protection).
Maybe symantec is a good product, but not everyone chooses to use it. To be honest, when we used symantec we found it allowed some infected emails through and the server needed to be rebooted a couple times a day if a break-out was occuring. Now with Mcafee + declude, we have very few infections and the server never seems to miss a beat. Doug Andeson ----- Original Message ----- From: "bpollack" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 6:59 PM Subject: RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team > > Yes, but that includes a year of Symantec A/V for an unlimited number of > users. If you -want- Symantec, which is, after all, the market leader, it's > actually quite a good deal, as many users have already concluded. However, > if you -don't- want Symantec bundled in, as it currently is in some ICS > packages (which we now understand is not attractive to ISPs, in particular), > stay tuned.... > > Bill Pollack > Ipswitch COO > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Tolmachoff > (Lists) > Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 7:51 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive > Team > > SA for ISP version is listed to be $2295 per year. (Youch!) > > John Tolmachoff > Engineer/Consultant/Owner > eServices For You > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:IMail_Forum- > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Don Schreiner > > Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 3:34 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive > Team > > > > We are running IMail 8 unlimited (upgrading since v4). Because we offer > web > > hosting need unlimited version. Our SA is up for renewal next month. > Looking > > at http://www.ipswitch.com/Purchase/products/ics.html it seems the > > equivalent is the "Service Provider" at $3995 with existing license and > > includes their anti-virus (the anti-virus we do not use or need because we > > use Declude). If my understanding is correct, then there is no way I can > > renew our SA for version 8 unlimited? Or must I pay $3995 next month for > > entire new version with SA included for 1 year. Anyone know what the cost > of > > the SA will be after the first year? > > > > -Don > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "John Tolmachoff (Lists)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 4:32 PM > > Subject: RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive > > Team > > > > > > The added features of ICS is primarily designed to be used by a company > for > > its messaging/collaboration needs. It is not packaged with the ISP in > mind. > > That is why the offered ISP version does not have the collaboration > > features, namely IM and WorkGroupShare. > > > > > > > > John Tolmachoff > > > > Engineer/Consultant/Owner > > > > eServices For You > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Barnes > > Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 1:21 PM > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive > > Team > > > > > > > > are you stating that if you have domain X.Y.Z, domain W.X.Y, domain V.W.X, > > domain U.V.W and domain T.U.V and you decide to implement the > collaborative > > features for domain W.X.Y that you cannot collaborate within the other > > domains? > > > > > > > > If so, that's just another reason NOT to purchase an unwanted and price > > inflated product. > > > > > > > > Bruce Barnes > > > > ChicagoNetTech Inc > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Bill Foresman > > Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 15:13 > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: RE: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive > > Team > > > > you guys know that the collaborative features only work for a single > domain, > > right? > > > > > > > > Bill Foresman > > Matrosity Hosting > > <http://www.matrosityhosting.com/> www.matrosityhosting.com > > Office: (850) 656-2644 > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joe Hansen > > Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 3:58 PM > > To: Eric Coffman > > Subject: Re[2]: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive > Team > > > > Hello, > > > > Someone was asking for "Who will actually purchase ISC"? Apparently > > Steven loves ISC... > > > > > > > > http://www.biosmagazine.co.uk/article.php?id=1270 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > > To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > > List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > > Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ > > > To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ > > > To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ > > *Scanned for viruses by Declude Virus* > > To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/
