Sediments: 1. Material that settles to the bottom of a liquid; lees. 2. Solid fragments of inorganic or organic material that come from the weathering of rock and are carried and deposited by wind, water, or ice.
I add #3: 3. That which exists at the bottom of a foundering company. Perhaps the "sediments" relayed by Mr. Karp were more accurate than ever imagined... in which case this quasi-Freudian slip is rendered even MORE on-target? (We all know you meant "sentiments". Just havin' some fun on a Saturday night, waiting for the wife to go into labor. ;) m Go open source, and don't look back! :) > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Ted Galerneau > Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 7:46 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team > > > LOL, I totally hear what you are saying and feel pretty close to the same > right now. However I am still going to wait and hear what they > have to say > Monday and try to make that determination at that time. > > Throughout my years in this industry I've worked with, around and for a > variety of people with a variety of different personalities. One person > making an arrogant remark like Mr. Karp did can influence the public's > opinion on a whole entity, just like what happened here. > > While I am not tossing any stones at anyone, Mr. Karp included, > perhaps he > doesn't really speak for the majority at Ipswitch or even > accurately relay > their sediments. Who's to say, he may not even be employed come > Monday! He > is the Senior Marketing Manager and maybe this was his idea was > his only and > he's put it all on the line for this concept! Like told the rest > if I can't > boost your sales by Xth % then I will leave. In all fairness to > Ipswitch, we > will not know anything for sure until Monday. > > The fact that Bill Pollack posted the following tells me that > maybe Mr. Karp > and his marketing team may have made some bad choices and higher > up sees it > now. > > Bill Pollack posted: > > Ipswitch has no plans to kill, censor or modify the IMail Forum. Free > speech is a good thing, even if it's not necessarily what one > wants to hear. > The Forum provides a significant, unique service to the IMail > user base and, > once we resolve the IMail-to-ICS issues, we expect it to > continue to provide > a valuable service. > > We -are- listening carefully to the Forum postings, other emails, phone > calls, etc. Your input is important to us. A course of action is being > planned in response to your concerns and suggestions, and we will post a > detailed message by Monday night. > > Bill Pollack, COO (spaces and email deleted so not to cause issues) > > You see, some people there can see where they could have made a very bad > marketing mistake, and how much this will bite them by > continuing with it. > This mistake could have easily been generated by one person with a very > arrogant attitude that was able to sell it to the rest of management. My > faith and trust is bruised at best, however I am willing to keep an open > mind now that I've calmed down a bit from the initial shock of feeling > betrayed and realizing there may be more to this other than what we can > begin to comprehend from our limited view of what is really > happening behind > their doors. > > In summary: If I don't see 180 degree turn around and a public apology > posted from or in behalf of Mr. Karp, my quest for a new answer > may resume > subsequently and I will echo your complete sediments 100%. Right now I am > trying to keep an open mind, but it's kind of hard to do lol :) > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill > Sent: Saturday, October 30, 2004 3:35 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team > > > Corporate greed is evil, once it starts I it can > > spread like a cancer. > > For me, Monday's announcement is irrelevant. Ipswitch played > their hand, > and allowed us to see how they truly view their customer base. > > per David Karp: > > "I encourage all of you to download and evaluate ICS. If it doesn't meet > your needs, I wish you success with a product that does." > > If they crawfish now, it won't be because they had an epiphany > and realized > they really liked their customers after all. They told me all I need to > know, and I am going to take Mr. Karp's advice. I will not work with an > arrogant company who displays contempt for their current > customers. There > are too many other options for that. > > Bill > > > > To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > List Archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ > > > To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > List Archive: > http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ > To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/
