I agree with you Scott, C/R is the most stupid invention we've ever seen at
the opposite of what e-mail is!

Laurent.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "R. Scott Perry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 1:29 PM
Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] A Quick Note from the Ipswitch Executive Team


>
> >1.  almost who is using Challenge/Response LOVED the service.  They have
> >the option, on a user-by-user basis, to turn it off.
> >
> >IMHO, it is a very GOOD thing and is overwhelmingly liked by the
> >administrations of the three school systems I talked to.
>
> Yes, many of the people who *use* it like it.  It's the rest of the world
> that hates it.  See the top 10 reasons why challenge/response (C/R) is
bad:
>
> [1] You end up being a spammer (the majority of spam sent to you will
> result in confirmation requests being sent to innocent victims)
> [2] Spammers now send pretend confirmation requests, presumably to make
> people less likely to respond to C/R requests
> [3] Many people respond to C/R requests that they never initiated
> (sometimes intentionally, sometimes not).  Some people who are fed up with
> bogus C/R requests respond to all of 'em, knowing that the spam will start
> getting through to people hiding behind C/R.
> [4] C/R companies have been known to send out spam and harvest addresses
of
> people sending to their customers, and apparently sell those addresses to
> spammers
> [5] The C/R system is patented, so most anti-spam programs using C/R have
> legal liabilities waiting to be ironed out.  The C/R program you buy today
> may go under tomorrow.
> [6] Confirmations sent to mailing lists won't work
> [7] Confirmations sent to others using C/R won't work.  If everybody had
> C/R, nobody could send E-mail to anybody!
> [8] People like me that offer a free service (in my case, helping people
> with DNS) end up losing money (by spending time investigating and
> responding to C/R systems, dealing with spam received as a result, etc.)
> and sometimes get fed up with C/R systems and eventually stop offering
free
> advice (never knowing how many people won't get it), harming everybody.
> [9] Legitimate E-mail from automated services won't be seen (such as when
> ordering products online)
> [10] Due to #1-#9, most C/R challenges are treated as spam -- if the
> challenge never gets through, the response will never get through.
>
> In other words, you're doing something nice for your customers, but at the
> cost of annoying the rest of the world.
>
>                                                     -Scott
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