Hi David, We have stated that any customer looking to purchase stand-alone IMail should call us and we will consider each situation.
Jill -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Gregg Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 10:28 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] OT: Need to Vent - SPF Hi Jill, I've seen multiple posts from Ipswitch staff indicating support for existing customers (i.e. SA are available). What I have not seen is a definitive statement on whether or not the stand-alone product can be purchased and if so, what the price will be. Please advise... Regards, David Gregg dgSoft Internet Services +1.949.584-1514 --- mxGuard for IMail Adds anti-spam *and* anti-virus capabilities to your IMail server. $99 unlimited domains/users. No service agreements. Download and install a free trial version today. http://www.mxGuard.com/Postmaster/FreeTrial.asp --- ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jill Jones" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, November 08, 2004 6:36 AM Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] OT: Need to Vent - SPF > Hi All, > > I believe that we have made it clear on a number of occasions that we > intend > to enhance and support the core IMail product as it is central to ICS. > Features like SPF will absolutely be added to IMail and will be available > to > those users who have IMail Service Agreements. > > Best regards, > Jill > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ted Galerneau > Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 5:11 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: [IMail Forum] OT: Need to Vent > > I know exactly what you mean Darin, and you could be totally right. Dang, > I > hate it whenever I am undecided about something and feel like I don't want > to move forwards until it's solved. > > I could easily just buy Declude and hang in here, but the fact that some > of > the other email servers sell for less than the price of Declude pro and > some > others for less than the cost of Declude's yearly SA alone. Declude has > many > features you will not find in other email server offerings, however some > of > the other email servers don't have features that Declude with Imail has. > The > cost of a yearly SA for both Declude and Imail would easily pay for a full > unlimited license of several different email server offerings that come > with > a year of support and upgrades. A subsequent upgrade SA from those > companies > is much less than it would be with IMail and Declude together and some are > even less that the cost of a Declude SA. If a person is willing to deal > with > FreeBSD, there are some really powerful offerings out there for free. > > Ipswitch knows that we have a known stable product to work with and tons > of > support right here on this forum. Most other email servers are an unknown > to > us and don't have the support community that Imail does. I suspect that is > part of their motivating factor for the new pricing scam. If you don't pay > more for the SA, you would need to eventually buy ICS whenever something > breaks the Imail core and an upgrade is mandatory, which has happened > before > and will likely happen again in the future! > > The only other thing I have left to consider is about trust and ethics. > After all Ipswitch has done and their weak attempt to smooth things over, > there are new questions. Can we trust them to not bind any of the new > features that we need only to ICS and not the core? If they are greedy > enough to pull what they've already done on us, would they be greedy > enough > to do that? Take a feature like SPF for instance as they could easily code > it to only work with ICS and not with just the core Imail, then give some > lame excuse about the way the code works not allowing them to do it that > way. I am not implying they would do this for sure, I am just saying they > could if they wanted to. I've said before and I will say again, once > corporate greed sets in, it spreads like a cancer! This is the real reason > I > am having trouble deciding if I want to stay with IMail or what other > product to go with for our email needs. It's now more about ethics and > trust > to me that it is the money. If I wait and continue and use Imail in our > newest idea, it means that needing to change later could break what I > would > be building around Imail. It may be easier to just fix it now rather than > wait and gamble that Imail will do the right things from here on. > > What say you Ipswitch management? I believe this is the second time I've > asked for an official response about this possible issue. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Darin Cox > Sent: Sunday, November 07, 2004 6:30 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: [IMail Forum] OT: Need to Vent > > I really doubt this. It's very hard to get everyone to agree to new > standards, as all of the big players will be fighting for their own > agendas. > Take a look at what has happened to SPF as an example. > <Snip> > > > To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ > > > To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html > List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ > Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ > To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/ To Unsubscribe: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/mailing-lists.html List Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/imail_forum%40list.ipswitch.com/ Knowledge Base/FAQ: http://www.ipswitch.com/support/IMail/
