Earlier tonight I posted a link to a bug report for zarafa and thunderbird, 
showing problems with a proprietary aol extension they both implement.

If that does not show real need, I don't know what would suffice.


Barry Leiba <[email protected]> wrote:

>On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 12:22 PM, Cyrus Daboo <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Which mailing list? imapext or imap5?
>
>Typo (or braino).  There is no "imapext" list.
>
>>> flagged for deletion, the third step has the side effect of
>expunging
>>                                      ^^^
>>
>> Really it is "can have the side effect" since clients might have the
>option
>> of using UID EXPUNGE
>
>But UID EXPUNGE is part of the UIDPLUS extension, not in base IMAP
>(and I'm not sure how widely deployed UIDPLUS is.  And, as you say,
>one would have to be mentally unstable to try to work around this the
>other way.  Still, "can have" is fine, and I've changed the text.
>
>>> The IMAP MOVE extension (imapmove) working group has the single task
>>> of developing an atomic IMAP MOVE command that will move a set of
>>                  ^^^^^^           ^^^^^^^
>> Use "extension" instead of "command" as the actual command is "UID
>MOVE" as
>> per Arnt's spec. As per Timo, I am not sure we should state it will
>be
>> "atomic" as that may restrict what we do in the spec.
>
>It's meant to be "atomic" from the client's view, whether or not it's
>atomic in the server.  But I prefer your later suggestion of "single
>command", so I've changed it accordingly.
>
>> Are there existing client and server implementations of the
>> draft-gulbrandsen-imap-move right now?
>
>So Arnt tells me.
>
>> Does "implementation" also cover
>> actual interoperability testing, or does it only speak to the actual
>ability
>> to modify existing servers/clients to adopt the extension?
>
>If there's interop testing, it would be very fine to document that
>here.  But that's not what this is about; this is to show that there's
>a real need for this, and active work on implementations (as opposed
>to our developing another IMAP extension that gets essentially no
>use).
>
>Attached is the latest charter version, with these changes.
>
>Barry
>
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