On 9-Jul-07, at 11:23 PM, Tim Bray wrote:

On Jul 9, 2007, at 7:28 PM, Richard Elling wrote:

Minor point, we don't need to use something as braindead as sudo,
we're Solaris, we can use RBAC.

Remember, every time you take something out that people are used to
and seemed to work, you increase the Solaris barrier to entry.  I've
been using sudo for years and, silly me, it seemed pretty secure and
pretty useful.  So if you're not going to provide it, there needs to
be an instantly-accessible explanation of how to achieve the same
effect with RBAC.  -Tim

I understand that we want to eliminate some barriers to entry, but why ought we shovel rubbish in to the distribution to do so ? Not having ZFS at all would reduce a barrier to entry, because then the users wouldn't have to think about a new way of doing things. In some senses we do need to draw a line where we'll accept some barriers because they quite simply lead to a better way of doing things.

The inability to run Linux binaries in a sane fashion is a barrier to entry whose solution is to run the GNU userspace on the Linux kernel, but we shouldn't go down that route because it's bloody stupid


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