"I. Szczesniak" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> On 8/1/07, Eric Boutilier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Tue, 26 Jun 2007, Shawn Walker wrote:
>> > On 26/06/07, Eric Boutilier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> On Tue, 26 Jun 2007, Shawn Walker wrote:
>> >> > On 26/06/07, Eric Boutilier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> >> >> On Tue, 26 Jun 2007, Peter Tribble wrote:
>> >> >> > By people, what's the target audience at this stage? I think my
>> >> question
>> >> >> is
>> >> >> > really whether the first "release" is aimed at users, or whether 
>> >> >> > there
>> >> >> should
>> >> >> > be a 0.0 "release" solely for the purpose of Indiana bootstrapping?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Good question. So that raises the issue of "non-emancipated"
>> >> >> (non-redistributable) files. That is, should there be a 0.0 or 0.1
>> >> >> release that includes them in it? (I vote no, FWIW.)
>> >> >>
>> >> >> And if not, wouldn't that be the main constraint here?
>> >> >
>> >> > Non-emancipated is not the same as non-redistributable. Remember that
>> >> > there are binary "blobs" that are redistributable. There are several
>> >> > files right now that can be redistributed but have not been
>> >> > emancipated that are very important for the basic system. (libm.so
>> >> > comes to mind... I think).
>> >>
>> >> Yes, thanks. I meant non-redistributable.
>> >
>> > I don't even know that we have a list of what is non-redistributable.
>> > I would have to agree that is probably a pretty important point for
>> > the first release. That way the iso can be downloaded, shared, and
>> > mirrored everywhere.
>>
>> I agree, and even more so now in light of the distro constructor project.
>>
>> >
>> > I know there is a list of what is "encumbered", but is anyone aware of
>> > a list of what it isn't redistributable?
>> >
>>
>> There's a place where this is tabulated now:
>>      http://opensolaris.org/os/about/no_source/
>>
>> So for example, if someone used the ON consolidation (click on the ON
>> tab) as a base for something, the following is a list of what must be
>> omitted or replaced, as they are non redistributable, closed binaries.
>> (Question:  Does anybody know if the SUNCreq/SUNWCrnet
>> mini-metaclusters are derived fully from ON or not?)
>>
>> Eric
>>
>>
>> audioens driver     Ensonig 1371/1373 and Creative Labs 5880 driver support
>> pcn driver          AMD PCnet Ethernet controller device driver
>> phx driver          Kernel driver interfaces
>> scmi2c driver       Smart Transporter chip device driver
>> spwr driver         SMC EtherPower II (EPIC) 10/100 (9432) Ethernet device 
>> driver
>> ksh88               Korn shell
>
> I thought Opensolaris already reached the consensus on the ksh88
> matter: Replace the old ksh88 with ksh93 - or do you have other plans?
> IMO it would be a shame to throw away all the work of the last year.
>

Roland's current work is to integrate ksh93 as ksh93.  He also has a
build flag to build it as 'ksh'.

In neither instance is that ksh88 though (and see, ksh88 was even
specified explicitly).

-- Rich
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