On 08/08/07, Josh Hurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 8/8/07, Eric Boutilier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Tue, 7 Aug 2007, Tim Bray wrote: > > > On Aug 7, 2007, at 9:38 AM, Chris Pickett wrote: > > > > > >> I think we have a bigger problem than /bin/ksh: Does Indiana or > > >> Opensolaris want to address the problem that Opensolaris still uses > > >> the original bourne shell as /bin/sh? Most modern Unices use either > > >> bash or ksh as /bin/sh > > > > > > This is well known to be an area fraught with religion. Having said > > > that, my impression is that a large majority of the linux community, > > > and substantially all of the OS X community, live in bash, which is / > > > bin/sh. I bet that quite a few of the younger linux & mac geeks > > > don't even know there are other shells :) Early releases of OS X > > > had tcsh and that provoked much beating of breasts and gnashing of > > > teeth until they switched to bash. -Tim > > > > Wait though. Why aren't we just applying the logic of the Nevada GNU > > project design[1]? So if I understand it correctly, /bin/sh would > > remain the Bourne Shell > > -1 > I strongly disagree. /bin/sh needs to be replaced.
Causing existing Solaris users more pain by making /bin/sh bash is askin to throwing the baby out with the bath water. /bin/sh should be the bourne shell as it is supposed to be. > > and /usr/gnu/bin/sh becomes a symlink to > > /bin/bash... What's wrong with that? > > It won't help makefiles, users of system() and popen() and all other > users who expect that /bin/sh is a decent shell such as ksh or bash. They should have no such expectations. Any developer "worth his salt" should see the numerous warnings surrounding the use of system and popen. I'm not one to cater to broken applications. Fix the problem, don't "band-aid" it and cover up the real issue. -- Shawn Walker, Software and Systems Analyst [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://binarycrusader.blogspot.com/ "Beware of bugs in the above code; I have only proved it correct, not tried it. " --Donald Knuth _______________________________________________ indiana-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/indiana-discuss
