On 31/10/2007, Chris Mahan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On 10/31/07, Glynn Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Shawn Walker wrote: > > > Stop focusing on yourselves; focus on the users. We need to do what's > > > best for the community, not our egos. > > > > I absolutely agree with Shawn on this one. We are going to have to make > some > > tough choices, and some people will feel left out by them and that's the > reality > > we're going to all have to face. > > > > Ok, but there's where I com from: I am a user. I am a consumer, not a > producer, of operating systems. I build web applications. > > I use debian stable (Etch) as my OS of choice right now, on one dedicated > and several virtual servers. Yes, I select my os, download it, congure it, > and run it myself. > > I use Solaris 9 at the office and F'in hate it. I also don't like Ubuntu > that much, and I don't care for RH, although I've used it. I tried Mandriva > for a bit and that wasn't my cup of tea. I've not messed with anything else > since I found debian because it hits my sweet spot. > > So you can consider me as a dispassionate user who wants a top-of-the-line, > dynamic OS. I really want ShilliX to do well because thanks to python I can > make offline web servers available (WSGI+framework+SQLite for those > interested) and I want to be able to have a "OS+Server+application+browser" > on USB, self-launchable, that will work offline and online the same way. > (webservices back end on server when connected to the net). That's the kind > of thing I want. I care not for this or that distro, but I am experienced > enough to understand that diversity breeds diversity and I want the > OpenSolaris world to be defined by diversity and not by a one-trick-pony OS. > > I also don't work for Sun so I don't have to watch my words or "attitude" > for fear of the HR axe. If some of you find what I say grating to their > sensibilities, tough.
I see nothing in what you've stated that conflicts with having a distribution called "OpenSolaris." Ubuntu thrived despite Debian's long years of existence. Slackware continues despite RedHat's rise. SUSE continues despite RedHat. Mandraiva continues despite ... etc. As I implied before, users ultimately determine the life and death of a brand or product and the community is in control here. If users start flocking to something else, then do something about it! That's what Project Indiana is about; growing the community and capturing users. Can *anyone* prove to me how a project that *improve* and grow our community is to our detriment? It's been two years now and other distributions have had every opportunity to grow their communities. Do we want to remain a niche community for the next two years or are we ready to grow up and start meeting the expectations of our users? I would hope we're mature enough now to start doing whatever it takes to meet the expectations of users. -- Shawn Walker, Software and Systems Analyst http://binarycrusader.blogspot.com/ "We don't have enough parallel universes to allow all uses of all junction types--in the absence of quantum computing the combinatorics are not in our favor..." --Larry Wall _______________________________________________ indiana-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/indiana-discuss
