On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 10:32:09PM +0200, Bernd Schemmer wrote: > >>Thus, not only is there no practical way to emulate SVR4 preinstall/ > >>preremove/checkinstall pkg scripting with IPS, there's no reason to. > > That's the reason why I don't like the new approach: > > "Someone" decided what is useful and what not and we have to live with > it ...
Reasons were given. You're not arguing the technical details. Instead you seem unhappy with how the decision was made (without your input, I suppose). That's not a good enough argument. > When I compare IPS with SVR4 I would call SVR4 "freedom to implement the > best solution for your situation even if Sun never thought that it might > be used this way" and IPS "you're only allowed to do what we think is > useful". I'd characterize it differently. SVR4 packaging lets you run arbitrary code during pkg install, and the tools layered on top of SVR4 packaging created a plethora of contexts where said code must be able to run, and this creatd an unmanageable situation. IPS gives you all sorts of freedoms, but only in a single context: running image context, and IPS greatly constrains what can be done in other contexts. > Nevertheless I think IPS is useful for Solaris running on a desktop > computer (I'm using OpenSolaris on my Thinkpad for day-to-day usage and > I'm very satisfied with Solaris and IPS there) but I don't think this is > the right way to go for server in production. I believe IPS + AI probably scales to the enterprise _now_. But I believe IPS is not ready for enterprise use in one sense: customers are not yet ready to use IPS packaging to do the things they are used to doing with SVR4, and we could make that transition easier. For example, a simple tool to create an SMF actuator from a developer-provided script would be nice. It's possible that there may yet be a use for my SVR4->IPS CAS/post* script migration tool. Nico -- _______________________________________________ indiana-discuss mailing list [email protected] http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/indiana-discuss
