Some further views:
"Dear all
Wouldn't it be better to refer to the three groups under the
Fabaceae (Leguminosae) as three subfamilies - Faboideae, Caesalpinioideae
and Mimosoideae, rather than treating them as separate families as it would
create more confusion ?? They are treated as subfamilies in the APG 2003 as
well
devipriya"
2009/9/19 J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com>
> Hi, Singh ji,
> I have corrected 'Indiantreepix Database' with only family as '*Fabaceae*'
> to avoid any confusion.
> It will be reflected in next upload of database.
>
> 2009/9/18 Pardeshi S. <satishparde...@gmail.com>
>
>
>> Hello all
>> i think Papilionaceae now Fabaceae can be clearly distinguished with
>> its papilionaceous corolla, where as caesalpinaceae has its own
>> characteristics and family mimosaceae has its calyx and corolla much
>> reduces as compared with longer stamens. this morphology of their
>> floral parts clearly indicated their family. i think it would not be
>> correct to put all under Fabaceae.
>>
>> this are my views. further suggestions are welcome.
>> Regards
>> Satish Pardeshi
>>
>> On Sep 18, 11:06 am, Tabish <tabi...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > Dear Gurcharan ji,
>> > Thank you for bringing up this discussion. We had given a lot of
>> > thought to this aspect, and decided to follow the second approach that
>> > you mention. We could have clubbed everything under Fabaceae, that
>> > technically comes under Fabaceae. We could have put the species that
>> > are under Asclepiadaceae (Milkweed family), under Apocynaceae
>> > (Oleander family). But then it takes away lot of information from the
>> > common user. Milkweeds do have some common characteristics among
>> > themselves. Botanists disntinguish between various sub-categories by
>> > specifying sub-families, but we do not want to overload a layperson
>> > with those details. So, we decided to follow the second approach.
>> > Putting Adenanthera pavonina under Fabaceae was an oversight, I
>> > will put it under Mimosaceae now. Do let me know if you come across
>> > any other inconsistency or discrepency.
>> > Best wishes
>> > - Tabish
>> >
>> > On Sep 18, 8:27 am, "singhg ." <sin...@sify.com> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > > This concerns the family names in our databases especially Flowers of
>> India
>> >
>> > > It does not make much difference which author you are following, but
>> > > there is need for a consistent approach.
>> >
>> > > Family Leguminosae is one of the largest families of flowering plants.
>> > > Its new correct name is Fabaceae.
>> >
>> > > We either divide the family into three subfamilies (Faboideae,
>> > > Caesalpinioideae and Mimosoideae) and write just Fabaceae for all
>> > > members.
>> >
>> > > The second approach is to recognise all three as separate families:
>> > > Fabaceae (now alternate name Papilionaceae not Leguminosae),
>> > > Caesalpiniaceae and Mimosaceae; this classification is not followed in
>> > > recent classifications, but no harm in using it as far as we are
>> > > consistent.
>> >
>> > > In Flowers of India website Acacia in placed under family Mimosaceae,
>> > > whereas Adenanthera (of the same group) is placed under Fabaceae. I
>> > > think this and other similar cases need to be corrected.
>> >
>> > > Tabish ji to please take a note.
>> >
>> > > --
>> > > Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>> > > Department of Botany
>> > > SGTB Khalsa College
>> > > University of Delhi
>> > > Delhi-110007
>> > > Res: 932 Anand Kunj
>> > > Vikas Puri
>> > > New Delhi-110018
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>> >
>> > - Show quoted text -
>> >>
>>
>
>
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