... and I forgot to stress on this point: the plant stands about 1.5 - 2 m tall, often in gregarious colonies. Regards. Dinesh
On Sun, Jun 9, 2013 at 8:40 PM, Dinesh Valke <dinesh.va...@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear friends, > > Recent Pluchea lanceolata posts by ... > Gurcharan ji: Pluchea lanceolata from > Delhi-GS11<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/dddADH8wkMk/e-Z6aZpNaKcJ>... > Rawat ji: Pluchea lanceolata from > Uttarakhand_DSR_8<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/WsCeQk8iAFA/l6enVrAXMIUJ> > Nidhan ji:Pluchea lanceolata from Panipat- NS > 05<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/YxFCKlBRtpA/K6aVsfS2SBoJ> > > All of them show aspects of plants to be consistent, especially the leaves > - entire margin, sessile. > > > > With as many as 8 species of Pluchea distributed in India (Gurcharan ji's > post<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/dddADH8wkMk/e-Z6aZpNaKcJ>giving > keys to 7 species of > *Pluchea* in India), I request you all to reconsider the ID of my posted > plant. > > I am showing another photo, and two cropped portions of it for a closer > look; hopefully the ID gets resolved. > Though the sighting is another location - Vaghbil, Thane on 14 JAN 11, am > confident that the plant is definitely same. > I get a feeling that the leaf margin of my posted plant is serrate (or > sub-serrate - not sure of terminology) and most possibly is amplexicaule. > > > ORIGINAL SIZED photo below; two cropped portions of it, follow next. > > [image: Pluchea > ovalis]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F5354086199%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzeAGqGkgPkPgD4jmfDMnEInwofjXw> > > > CROPPED PORTIONS OF ABOVE PHOTO below > > [image: Pluchea ¿ ovalis / lanceolata / else > ?]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F8997159970%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcB61LnuoqKqh5KPQz_Vaid-T0h3g> > > [image: Pluchea ¿ ovalis / lanceolata / else > ?]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F8995971099%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcS_1boesMvpQ7l83c8AnorqikwGg> > > > Regards. > Dinesh > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 5, 2013 at 4:00 PM, Shrikant Ingalhalikar < > shrikant.ingalhali...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Dear Dr Gurcharansinghji, >> As per T. Cooke flora outer involucral bracts >> 1. ovate, acute is P. tomentosa (ovalis) >> 2. oblong, obtuse is P. lanceolata >> You can see these features in Dr. Rawat's post of P. lanceolata and my >> post of P. ovalis >> Hope this resolves ID of 2 Plucheas. Regards >> >> >> On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 10:20:03 PM UTC+5:30, Gurcharan Singh wrote: >> >>> Thanks Shrikant ji for this upload. >>> Perhaps we may have clear picture at the end of this episode. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>> Retired Associate Professor >>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.**com/ <http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/> >>> http://people.du.ac.in/~**singhg45/ <http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/> >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 9:05 PM, Shrikant Ingalhalikar < >>> shrikant.i...@gmail.**com> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Dr.Gurcharsinghji, I have been calling the attached plant with 5-8 >>>> cm long, auricled and coarsely dentate leaves as P. ovalis. Pls ID this >>>> plant that is strongly aromatic. Regards, >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, June 4, 2013 8:29:04 AM UTC+5:30, Gurcharan Singh wrote: >>>> >>>>> I think P. ovalis. Besides leaf shape in second photograph, the >>>>> dentate leaf margin, the crucial difference is auricled leaf base, which >>>>> can be seen. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.**com**/ <http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/> >>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~**singhg**45/<http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jun 4, 2013 at 7:56 AM, Nidhan Singh <nidhans...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for sharing Dinesh Ji, I am uploading in a separate mail the >>>>>> plant I consider to be Pluchea lanceolata, with entire margins..hope that >>>>>> helps to resolve... >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 6:17 PM, Dinesh Valke <dinesh...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Many thanks Shrikant ji for validating the ID. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This plant is also found in Thane and Mumbai - near mangroves. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The plant in this post grows about 2 m tall gregariously on large >>>>>>> stream bed at Karnala Bird Sanctuary. >>>>>>> The leaf in this post is oval or elliptic (acute at both ends) as >>>>>>> well as tomentose - just as the epithets (*ovalis* or *tomentosa*) >>>>>>> would suggest. >>>>>>> On a close look, the margin is not truly entire; it is bluntly >>>>>>> serrate or dentate (not sure exactly what it should be termed). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But if the description says *P. ovalis* must be obovate, then this >>>>>>> plant ID may need to reconsidered. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This ID of *P. ovalis* (syn. *P. tomentosa*) was confirmed by >>>>>>> Satish (Pardeshi) ji in one of my earlier >>>>>>> post<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/1mDRWmO0rTc/yUvaz3t1TIkJ> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> Would like to have Satish (Pardeshi) ji's comment. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 3, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Shrikant Ingalhalikar < >>>>>>> shrikant.i...@gmail.**com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dineshji, this seems P. lanceolata looking at entire and lanceolate >>>>>>>> leaves. P. ovalis should have obovate and serrate leaves. Besides the >>>>>>>> latter is a tall densely branched shrub 1-2 m tall. Pls check. Regards, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Monday, June 3, 2013 2:04:08 PM UTC+5:30, Dinesh Valke wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Asteraceae Week (Part II - Discoid heads) >>>>>>>>> aster, daisy, or sunflower family >>>>>>>>> *Pluchea ovalis* (Pers.) DC. >>>>>>>>> *PLOO-sha* -- named for Abbé Noel-Antoine Pluche, French >>>>>>>>> naturalist ... Dave's >>>>>>>>> Botanary<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fdavesgarden.com%2Fguides%2Fbotanary%2Fsearch.php%3Fsearch_text%3DPluchea&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdSiV36GTFETL-E2-dQVijzbcDhHA> >>>>>>>>> *oh-VAY-liss* -- oval ... Dave's >>>>>>>>> Botanary<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fdavesgarden.com%2Fguides%2Fbotanary%2Fsearch.php%3Fsearch_text%3Dovalis&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcHWZPOa3ZtKbOPX_wmNL4JcL_kDw> >>>>>>>>> *toh-men-TOH-suh* -- covered with fine, matted hairs ... Dave's >>>>>>>>> Botanary<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fdavesgarden.com%2Fguides%2Fbotanary%2Fsearch.php%3Fsearch_text%3Dtomentosa&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzeYWjhRWObnbyLPoK9bvJWjH4Wkcg> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *commonly known as*: woolly camphor-weed • *Sanskrit*: कलम्बिका >>>>>>>>> kalambika, सिंहलतिक्त sinhalatikta • *Tamil*: கொழும்பு kolumpu, >>>>>>>>> கொழும்புவேர் kolumpu-ver • *Telugu*: kalamba >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *Distribution*: West Africa, Arabian peninsula, Pakistan, India >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> *References*: Flowers of >>>>>>>>> India<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flowersofindia.net%2Fcatalog%2Fslides%2FWoolly%2520Camphor-Weed.html&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdq_ypU3n93L0v80lvfV-7NzqbxQw>• >>>>>>>>> eFlora<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.efloras.org%2Fflorataxon.aspx%3Fflora_id%3D5%26taxon_id%3D242426917&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzc9U97iEdkA9ClkPOHpaPbViYoSwA>• >>>>>>>>> ENVIS >>>>>>>>> - >>>>>>>>> FRLHT<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fenvis.frlht.org.in%2Fbotanical_search.php%3Ftxtbtname%3DPluchea%2Btomentosa%26gesp%3D1238%257CPluchea%2Btomentosa%2BDC.&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdPOdjHKj3mxlu1jAk-AD4U_08fYw>• >>>>>>>>> Floristic >>>>>>>>> Survey of Institute of >>>>>>>>> Science<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fiscmumbai.maharashtra.gov.in%2Ffloristic%2520survey.html&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcUoz-zDUNsQiwoI1xlFNbeldxUlw> >>>>>>>>> at Karnala Bird Sanctuary between 30 MAY 09 and 14 JAN 11 >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [image: Pluchea >>>>>>>>> ovalis]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F5354691786%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzcsy4Mbs7qiVsYnpUC7utEAsKnVwQ> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [image: Kolumpu-ver (Tamil: >>>>>>>>> கொழும்புவேர்)]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F4486218895%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzdZLjzfFi-0GU5mAWotL52y7g948Q> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [image: Kalambika (Sanskrit: कलम्बिका >>>>>>>>> kalambika)]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F3578555708%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfnLpm0seppm1xZ6I7htJpHnTwL0Q> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> [image: Kalamba (in >>>>>>>>> Telugu)]<http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F3578567064%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfewTCS2OQVIbLyt9srwCsMS5RDQg> >>>>>>>>> Regards. >>>>>>>>> Dinesh >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to indiantreepi...@**googlegroups.**com. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to indian...@googlegroups.com**. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group** >>>>>>>> /indiantreepix?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/**grou** >>>>>>>> ps/opt_out <https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out>. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to indiantreepi...@**googlegroups.**com. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to indian...@googlegroups.com**. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/**group** >>>>>>> /indiantreepix?hl=en<http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> For more options, visit >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/**grou**ps/opt_out<https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Dr. Nidhan Singh >>>>>> Assistant Professor >>>>>> Department of Botany >>>>>> I.B. 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