Hi, Singh ji. You have missed the 2nd half of my mail reproduced again: "It (APNI) also gives current name e.g. for *Triumfetta indica* Lam. i.e. it indicates its current name to be (i.e. it being a syn. of)Triumfetta annua http://www.ipni.org/ipni/idPlantNameSearch.do;jsessionid=FC662F5A0DA45BF33670F146F6F5BA4E?id=835846-1&back_page=%2Fipni%2FeditSimplePlantNameSearch.do%3Bjsessionid%3DFC662F5A0DA45BF33670F146F6F5BA4E%3Ffind_wholeName%3DTriumfetta%2Bindica%26output_format%3Dnormal
Similarly, it (APNI) also gives current name e.g. for *Triumfetta trichoclada* DC. i.e. it indicates its current name to be (i.e. it being a syn. of) Triumfetta annua http://www.ipni.org/ipni/idPlantNameSearch.do?id=836012-1&back_page=%2Fipni%2FeditSimplePlantNameSearch.do%3Ffind_wholeName%3DTriumfetta%2Btrichoclada%26output_format%3Dnormal Similarly, it (APNI) also gives current name e.g. for *Triumfetta triclada*Link i.e. it indicates its current name to be (i.e. it being a syn. of) *Triumfetta annua* http://www.ipni.org/ipni/idPlantNameSearch.do?id=836013-1&back_page=%2Fipni%2FeditSimplePlantNameSearch.do%3Ffind_wholeName%3DTriumfetta%2Btriclada%26output_format%3Dnormal And so & so on." *Thus if Phyllocephalum tenue ( Clarke ) Narayana) is syn. of Phyllocephalum scabridum ( DC. ) K.Kirkman), it will be indicate the current name as (= scabridum) under notes, in the APNI link of Phyllocephalum tenue ( Clarke ) Narayana) at * http://www.ipni.org/ipni/idPlantNameSearch.do;jsessionid=16428332EF7A05133BCD75C0AC3C9AF8?id=941965-1&back_page=%2Fipni%2FeditSimplePlantNameSearch.do%3Bjsessionid%3D16428332EF7A05133BCD75C0AC3C9AF8%3Ffind_wholeName%3DPhyllocephalum%2Btenue%26output_format%3Dnormal I hope I am clear now. 2009/10/27 Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> > Garg ji > These are the basionyms on which the new combinations are based. Every name > that has two authers one within parantheses (DC in this case) and one > outside -Kirkman in this case, will have a basionym. The problem of synonyms > comes when we are equating two differently described and typed names. > (heterotypic synonyms). > > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College > University of Delhi, Delhi > India > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45 > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* J.M. Garg <[email protected]> > *To:* Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> > *Cc:* Neil Soares <[email protected]> ; Pravin > Kawale<[email protected]>; > indiantreepix <[email protected]> ; Tabish<[email protected]>; > Dinesh > Valke <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Tuesday, October 27, 2009 5:36 PM > *Subject:* Re: [indiantreepix:21649] Re: ID021009phk1 > > Hi, Singh ji, > Thanks for making us learn bit by bit. > > I think it (APNI) also gives synonyms as one can see in the link for (* > Phyllocephalum* *scabridum* ( > DC.<http://www.ipni.org/ipni/idAuthorSearch.do?id=16855-1&back_page=%2Fipni%2FeditSimplePlantNameSearch.do%3Bjsessionid%3DC04E4D094FA678264160E479D1CEA4B8%3Ffind_wholeName%3DPhyllocephalum%2Bscabridum%26output_format%3Dnormal>) > K.Kirkman): > > http://www.ipni.org/ipni/idPlantNameSearch.do;jsessionid=C04E4D094FA678264160E479D1CEA4B8?id=909561-1&back_page=%2Fipni%2FeditSimplePlantNameSearch.do%3Bjsessionid%3DC04E4D094FA678264160E479D1CEA4B8%3Ffind_wholeName%3DPhyllocephalum%2Bscabridum%26output_format%3Dnormal > > It (APNI) also gives current name e.g. for *Triumfetta* *indica* > Lam.<http://www.ipni.org/ipni/idAuthorSearch.do;jsessionid=FC662F5A0DA45BF33670F146F6F5BA4E?id=5227-1&back_page=%2Fipni%2FeditSimplePlantNameSearch.do%3Bjsessionid%3DFC662F5A0DA45BF33670F146F6F5BA4E%3Ffind_wholeName%3DTriumfetta%2Bindica%26output_format%3Dnormal> > i.e. > it indicates its current name to be (i.e. it being a syn. of)*Triumfetta* > *annua* > > http://www.ipni.org/ipni/idPlantNameSearch.do;jsessionid=FC662F5A0DA45BF33670F146F6F5BA4E?id=835846-1&back_page=%2Fipni%2FeditSimplePlantNameSearch.do%3Bjsessionid%3DFC662F5A0DA45BF33670F146F6F5BA4E%3Ffind_wholeName%3DTriumfetta%2Bindica%26output_format%3Dnormal > > Similarly, it (APNI) also gives current name e.g. for *Triumfetta* * > trichoclada* DC. i.e. it indicates its current name to be (i.e. it being a > syn. of) *Triumfetta* *annua* > > http://www.ipni.org/ipni/idPlantNameSearch.do?id=836012-1&back_page=%2Fipni%2FeditSimplePlantNameSearch.do%3Ffind_wholeName%3DTriumfetta%2Btrichoclada%26output_format%3Dnormal > > Similarly, it (APNI) also gives current name e.g. for *Triumfetta* * > triclada* > Link<http://www.ipni.org/ipni/idAuthorSearch.do?id=22401-1&back_page=%2Fipni%2FeditSimplePlantNameSearch.do%3Ffind_wholeName%3DTriumfetta%2Btriclada%26output_format%3Dnormal>i.e. > it indicates its current name to be (i.e. it being a syn. of) > *Triumfetta* *annua* > > http://www.ipni.org/ipni/idPlantNameSearch.do?id=836013-1&back_page=%2Fipni%2FeditSimplePlantNameSearch.do%3Ffind_wholeName%3DTriumfetta%2Btriclada%26output_format%3Dnormal > > And so & so on. > > 2009/10/27 Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> > >> Garg ji >> Please note that IPNI (which is a common database for Index Kewensis, >> Australian Plant Names Index and Gray's Card Index) does not give any >> taxonomic judgement. It won't list whether the name is accepted one or a >> synonym. It is the GRIN Taxonomy page, Kew World Checklist (fragmentary at >> this stage), recent Floras and a few other websites which list synonymy. >> >> Since the two names being discussed here were validated more recently >> (1981, 1982), may be Tabish ji or any other colleague to cite a publication >> where the two have been treated as synonyms. >> >> >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> Associate Professor >> SGTB Khalsa College >> University of Delhi, Delhi >> India >> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45 >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >> *To:* Neil Soares <[email protected]> >> *Cc:* Pravin Kawale <[email protected]> ; >> indiantreepix<[email protected]>; >> Tabish <[email protected]> ; Dinesh Valke <[email protected]> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 27, 2009 1:55 PM >> *Subject:* [indiantreepix:21649] Re: ID021009phk1 >> >> Flowersofindia shows both of them as synonyms, while APNI shows them as >> different species as per links: >> >> http://www.ipni.org/ipni/idPlantNameSearch.do;jsessionid=16428332EF7A05133BCD75C0AC3C9AF8?id=941965-1&back_page=%2Fipni%2FeditSimplePlantNameSearch.do%3Bjsessionid%3D16428332EF7A05133BCD75C0AC3C9AF8%3Ffind_wholeName%3DPhyllocephalum%2Btenue%26output_format%3Dnormal >> (APNI- >> *Phyllocephalum* *tenue* ( Clarke ) >> Narayana<http://www.ipni.org/ipni/idAuthorSearch.do?id=23909-1&back_page=%2Fipni%2FeditSimplePlantNameSearch.do%3Ffind_wholeName%3DPhyllocephalum%2Btenue%26output_format%3Dnormal> >> ) >> >> >> http://www.ipni.org/ipni/idPlantNameSearch.do;jsessionid=C04E4D094FA678264160E479D1CEA4B8?id=909561-1&back_page=%2Fipni%2FeditSimplePlantNameSearch.do%3Bjsessionid%3DC04E4D094FA678264160E479D1CEA4B8%3Ffind_wholeName%3DPhyllocephalum%2Bscabridum%26output_format%3Dnormal >> (APNI- >> *Phyllocephalum* *scabridum* ( >> DC.<http://www.ipni.org/ipni/idAuthorSearch.do?id=16855-1&back_page=%2Fipni%2FeditSimplePlantNameSearch.do%3Bjsessionid%3DC04E4D094FA678264160E479D1CEA4B8%3Ffind_wholeName%3DPhyllocephalum%2Bscabridum%26output_format%3Dnormal>) >> K.Kirkman) >> >> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Purple%20Heads.html (FOI) >> >> *I think needs to be sorted out at FOI. >> * >> 2009/10/3 Neil Soares <[email protected]> >> >>> Hi Pravin, >>> The photograph here is of Baccharoides tenue / Phyllocephalum tenue / >>> Centrantherum tenue and not the same as the Purple Head [Baccharoides >>> scabridum / Phyllocephalum scrabridum] seen in your first photograph. >>> Regards, >>> Neil. >>> >>> >>> --- On *Sat, 10/3/09, Pravin Kawale <[email protected]>* wrote: >>> >>> >>> From: Pravin Kawale <[email protected]> >>> Subject: Re: [indiantreepix:19995] ID021009phk1 >>> To: "Neil Soares" <[email protected]> >>> Cc: "indiantreepix" <[email protected]> >>> Date: Saturday, October 3, 2009, 5:00 PM >>> >>> >>> Hi,Neilji, >>> It looks other than because >>> Purple head has both stem and leaves hairy >>> Pl.go through attachment >>> Thanks >>> >>> On Fri, Oct 2, 2009 at 9:51 PM, Neil Soares >>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Pravin, >>>> It is the Purple Head [Phyllocephalum scrabridum]. >>>> Regards, >>>> Neil. >>>> >>>> --- On *Fri, 10/2/09, Pravin Kawale >>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >>>> >* wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Pravin Kawale >>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >>>> > >>>> Subject: [indiantreepix:19995] ID021009phk1 >>>> To: "indiantreepix" >>>> <[email protected]<http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> >>>> > >>>> Date: Friday, October 2, 2009, 8:07 PM >>>> >>>> Hi, >>>> ID asistance please >>>> Herb from Sagargad,Alibag >>>> Hieght up to 1mt. >>>> Thanks in advance >>>> >>>> >>>> DSC06946.JPG >>>> DSC06947.JPG >>>> DSC06949.JPG >>>> >>>> These pictures were sent with Picasa, from Google. >>>> Try it out here: http://picasa.google.com/ >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Pravin >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >> >> >> -- >> With regards, >> J.M.Garg ([email protected]) >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 >> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >> Image Resource of thousands of my images of Birds, Butterflies, Flora etc. >> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise): >> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg >> For learning about Indian Flora, visit/ join Google e-group- >> Indiantreepix:http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix?hl=en >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg ([email protected]) > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 > 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > Image Resource of thousands of my images of Birds, Butterflies, Flora etc. > (arranged alphabetically & place-wise): > http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg > For learning about Indian Flora, visit/ join Google e-group- Indiantreepix: > http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix?hl=en > > -- With regards, J.M.Garg ([email protected]) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' Image Resource of thousands of my images of Birds, Butterflies, Flora etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise): http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg For learning about Indian Flora, visit/ join Google e-group- Indiantreepix: http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix?hl=en --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "indiantreepix" group. 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