A reply: "This is something based on nomenclature principles; Principle III : Priority Principle [ICBN]
If a taxonomic group has been given two or more names, the correct name is the first name that meets the *Code’s *standards for publication*. *Basically, this means that the priority of a name dates from the time that it was first published and made known to other botanists. e.g. in *Ficus microcarpa* *Ficus microcarpa* L.f. [*1782*] *Ficus retusa* var. *pisifera* (Miq.) Miq. [1867] *Ficus retus*a f. *parvifolia* Miq. [1867] *Ficus retusa* var. *nitida* King [1887] *Ficus retusa* var. *crassifolia* W.C.Shieh [1963] So, there are 5 different names for one species, if an author describes or reports a species with other name, submitted herbarium samples later studied and validated at Authorised Herbariums (viz. KEW, NYBG etc.) and later based on code's standards and sample authenticity new names or synonymy decided. Whereas, *Ficus microcarpa* L.f. and *Ficus retusa* L. both are distinct species [according to TPL]. According to Chaudhary *et. *al, It is said that *F. retusa* L. is a native of *Java* and does not occur in *India* (database of Grin, Tropicos, eFloras and Berg and Corner (2005)). The Indian materials are referred to *F. microcarpa* L. f. (Rao, 1986). However, after examining *F. microcarpa* L. f. and its allied taxa it has been felt that the Indian materials need to be re-examined from throughout their range of distribution to know the correct identity and occurrence of *F. retusa* L. in India. Kind regards, Varun" Thanks, Varun ji. On 10 February 2017 at 14:36, radha veach <[email protected]> wrote: > In biotik.org *F. retusa* L.is given as a synonym of *F. microcarpa* L.f. > If we read King, Talbot, Cooke as well as any number of older Floras this > tree is known as *Ficus retusa.* In some more modern sources it becomes *F. > microcarpa*. It is clear from descriptions that they refer to one and the > same species. > Can you explain the differences between the 2 which have led to a change > in the name? > > thank you > Radha > > > On 10 February 2017 at 13:40, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> A reply: >> "*Ficus microcarpa* L.f. >> Kind regards, >> Varun" >> >> Thanks, Varun ji. >> >> >> On 10 February 2017 at 10:41, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. >>> >>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>> >>> It looks like Ficus retusa syn, Ficus microcarpa >>> regards >>> Radha >>> >>> Thanks Radha Ji. >>> I was going by the link.... >>> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Dye%20Fig.html >>> And Raman Ji's link from Bangalore.... >>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/ram >>> an$20tinctoria%7Csort:relevance/indiantreepix/d4xaU5rBV-k/6Xr6PNZCQRoJ >>> Figs Of Bangalore - RA - Ficus tinctoria - Dye Fig Tree >>> Regards, >>> Aarti >>> >>> your posted plant is not Ficus tinctoria, >>> regards >>> Radha >>> >>> >>> *Ficus microcarpa* >>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/m/moraceae/ficus/ficus-microcarpa> >>> & *Ficus retusa *L. >>> <http://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/details/species/id/223af1b298568df90e12100d9921c3b5> >>> (Catalogue >>> of Life) appears to be two different accepted names- from me >>> >>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>> From: Aarti S. Khale <[email protected]> >>> Date: 27 January 2017 at 12:08 >>> Subject: [efloraofindia:262565] Ficus Species For ID : Ficus tinctoria? >>> : Lalbagh,Bangalore : 27JAN17 : AK-12 >>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>> >>> >>> Ficus tree seen in Lalbagh in the first week of Jan. >>> Couldn't find any fruits. >>> Is this Ficus tinctoria? >>> Experts, kindly validate. >>> Aarti >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> With regards, >>> J.M.Garg >>> >>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>> >>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >>> >>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the >>> world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or Efloraofindia >>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species >>> database of more than 11,000 species & 2,20,000 images). >>> >>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as >>> per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>> >>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of >>> India'. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> With regards, >> J.M.Garg >> >> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >> >> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >> >> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, >> please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the >> world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or Efloraofindia >> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species >> database of more than 11,000 species & 2,20,000 images). >> >> The whole world uses my Image Resource >> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as >> per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >> >> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of >> India'. >> > > -- With regards, J.M.Garg 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or Efloraofindia website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species database of more than 11,000 species & 2,20,000 images). 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