Thank you for your detailed reply, regards Radha
On Thursday, February 23, 2017 at 5:03:30 PM UTC+5:30, Aarti S. Khale wrote: > > Thanks Varun Ji. > Regards, > Aarti > > On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 12:05 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected] > <javascript:>> wrote: > >> A reply: >> "This is something based on nomenclature principles; Principle III : >> Priority Principle [ICBN] >> >> If a taxonomic group has been given two or more names, the correct name >> is the first name that meets the *Code’s *standards for publication*. >> *Basically, >> this means that the priority of a name dates from the time that it was >> first published and made known to other botanists. >> >> e.g. in *Ficus microcarpa* >> >> *Ficus microcarpa* L.f. [*1782*] >> >> *Ficus retusa* var. *pisifera* (Miq.) Miq. [1867] >> *Ficus retus*a f. *parvifolia* Miq. [1867] >> *Ficus retusa* var. *nitida* King [1887] >> *Ficus retusa* var. *crassifolia* W.C.Shieh [1963] >> >> So, there are 5 different names for one species, if an author describes >> or reports a species with other name, submitted herbarium samples later >> studied and validated at Authorised Herbariums (viz. KEW, NYBG etc.) and >> later based on code's standards and sample authenticity new names or >> synonymy decided. >> >> Whereas, *Ficus microcarpa* L.f. and *Ficus retusa* L. both are distinct >> species [according to TPL]. >> >> According to Chaudhary *et. *al, It is said that *F. retusa* L. is a >> native of *Java* and does not occur in *India* (database of Grin, >> Tropicos, eFloras and Berg and Corner (2005)). The Indian materials are >> referred to *F. microcarpa* L. f. (Rao, 1986). However, after examining *F. >> microcarpa* L. f. and its allied taxa it has been felt that the Indian >> materials need to be re-examined from throughout their range >> of distribution to know the correct identity and occurrence of *F. >> retusa* L. in India. >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Varun" >> >> Thanks, Varun ji. >> >> >> On 10 February 2017 at 14:36, radha veach <[email protected] >> <javascript:>> wrote: >> >>> In biotik.org *F. retusa* L.is given as a synonym of *F. microcarpa* >>> L.f. >>> If we read King, Talbot, Cooke as well as any number of older Floras >>> this tree is known as *Ficus retusa.* In some more modern sources it >>> becomes *F. microcarpa*. It is clear from descriptions that they refer >>> to one and the same species. >>> Can you explain the differences between the 2 which have led to a change >>> in the name? >>> >>> thank you >>> Radha >>> >>> >>> On 10 February 2017 at 13:40, J.M. Garg <[email protected] <javascript:>> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> A reply: >>>> "*Ficus microcarpa* L.f. >>>> Kind regards, >>>> Varun" >>>> >>>> Thanks, Varun ji. >>>> >>>> >>>> On 10 February 2017 at 10:41, J.M. Garg <[email protected] <javascript:> >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. >>>>> >>>>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>>>> >>>>> It looks like Ficus retusa syn, Ficus microcarpa >>>>> regards >>>>> Radha >>>>> >>>>> Thanks Radha Ji. >>>>> I was going by the link.... >>>>> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Dye%20Fig.html >>>>> And Raman Ji's link from Bangalore.... >>>>> >>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/raman$20tinctoria%7Csort:relevance/indiantreepix/d4xaU5rBV-k/6Xr6PNZCQRoJ >>>>> Figs Of Bangalore - RA - Ficus tinctoria - Dye Fig Tree >>>>> Regards, >>>>> Aarti >>>>> >>>>> your posted plant is not Ficus tinctoria, >>>>> regards >>>>> Radha >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *Ficus microcarpa* >>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/m/moraceae/ficus/ficus-microcarpa> >>>>> & *Ficus retusa *L. >>>>> <http://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/details/species/id/223af1b298568df90e12100d9921c3b5> >>>>> (Catalogue >>>>> of Life) appears to be two different accepted names- from me >>>>> >>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>> From: Aarti S. Khale <[email protected] <javascript:>> >>>>> Date: 27 January 2017 at 12:08 >>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:262565] Ficus Species For ID : Ficus >>>>> tinctoria? : Lalbagh,Bangalore : 27JAN17 : AK-12 >>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected] <javascript:>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Ficus tree seen in Lalbagh in the first week of Jan. >>>>> Couldn't find any fruits. >>>>> Is this Ficus tinctoria? >>>>> Experts, kindly validate. >>>>> Aarti >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to [email protected] <javascript:>. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>>>> <javascript:>. >>>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> With regards, >>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>> >>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>> >>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in >>>>> the world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or >>>>> Efloraofindia >>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a >>>>> species database of more than 11,000 species & 2,20,000 images). >>>>> >>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>>>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants >>>>> etc. >>>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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