Thanks Varun Ji. Regards, Aarti On Thu, Feb 23, 2017 at 12:05 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
> A reply: > "This is something based on nomenclature principles; Principle III : > Priority Principle [ICBN] > > If a taxonomic group has been given two or more names, the correct name is > the first name that meets the *Code’s *standards for publication*. *Basically, > this means that the priority of a name dates from the time that it was > first published and made known to other botanists. > > e.g. in *Ficus microcarpa* > > *Ficus microcarpa* L.f. [*1782*] > > *Ficus retusa* var. *pisifera* (Miq.) Miq. [1867] > *Ficus retus*a f. *parvifolia* Miq. [1867] > *Ficus retusa* var. *nitida* King [1887] > *Ficus retusa* var. *crassifolia* W.C.Shieh [1963] > > So, there are 5 different names for one species, if an author describes or > reports a species with other name, submitted herbarium samples later > studied and validated at Authorised Herbariums (viz. KEW, NYBG etc.) and > later based on code's standards and sample authenticity new names or > synonymy decided. > > Whereas, *Ficus microcarpa* L.f. and *Ficus retusa* L. both are distinct > species [according to TPL]. > > According to Chaudhary *et. *al, It is said that *F. retusa* L. is a > native of *Java* and does not occur in *India* (database of Grin, > Tropicos, eFloras and Berg and Corner (2005)). The Indian materials are > referred to *F. microcarpa* L. f. (Rao, 1986). However, after examining *F. > microcarpa* L. f. and its allied taxa it has been felt that the Indian > materials need to be re-examined from throughout their range > of distribution to know the correct identity and occurrence of *F. retusa* > L. in India. > > Kind regards, > > Varun" > > Thanks, Varun ji. > > > On 10 February 2017 at 14:36, radha veach <[email protected]> wrote: > >> In biotik.org *F. retusa* L.is given as a synonym of *F. microcarpa* >> L.f. >> If we read King, Talbot, Cooke as well as any number of older Floras this >> tree is known as *Ficus retusa.* In some more modern sources it becomes *F. >> microcarpa*. It is clear from descriptions that they refer to one and >> the same species. >> Can you explain the differences between the 2 which have led to a change >> in the name? >> >> thank you >> Radha >> >> >> On 10 February 2017 at 13:40, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> A reply: >>> "*Ficus microcarpa* L.f. >>> Kind regards, >>> Varun" >>> >>> Thanks, Varun ji. >>> >>> >>> On 10 February 2017 at 10:41, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. >>>> >>>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>>> >>>> It looks like Ficus retusa syn, Ficus microcarpa >>>> regards >>>> Radha >>>> >>>> Thanks Radha Ji. >>>> I was going by the link.... >>>> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Dye%20Fig.html >>>> And Raman Ji's link from Bangalore.... >>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!searchin/indiantreepix/ram >>>> an$20tinctoria%7Csort:relevance/indiantreepix/d4xaU5rBV-k/6Xr6PNZCQRoJ >>>> Figs Of Bangalore - RA - Ficus tinctoria - Dye Fig Tree >>>> Regards, >>>> Aarti >>>> >>>> your posted plant is not Ficus tinctoria, >>>> regards >>>> Radha >>>> >>>> >>>> *Ficus microcarpa* >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/m/moraceae/ficus/ficus-microcarpa> >>>> & *Ficus retusa *L. >>>> <http://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/details/species/id/223af1b298568df90e12100d9921c3b5> >>>> (Catalogue >>>> of Life) appears to be two different accepted names- from me >>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>> From: Aarti S. Khale <[email protected]> >>>> Date: 27 January 2017 at 12:08 >>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:262565] Ficus Species For ID : Ficus tinctoria? >>>> : Lalbagh,Bangalore : 27JAN17 : AK-12 >>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>>> >>>> >>>> Ficus tree seen in Lalbagh in the first week of Jan. >>>> Couldn't find any fruits. >>>> Is this Ficus tinctoria? >>>> Experts, kindly validate. >>>> Aarti >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to [email protected]. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> With regards, >>>> J.M.Garg >>>> >>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>> >>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >>>> >>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in >>>> the world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or >>>> Efloraofindia >>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species >>>> database of more than 11,000 species & 2,20,000 images). >>>> >>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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You can also use them for free as >>> per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>> >>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of >>> India'. >>> >> >> > > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > > 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> > > Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia > <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. > > For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, > please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group > <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the > world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or Efloraofindia > website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species > database of more than 11,000 species & 2,20,000 images). > > The whole world uses my Image Resource > <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a > thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. > (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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