Hello all
Terminalia aruna can be observed growing along the stream, where as T.
crenulata grows far away from the stream.

Regards
Satish Pardeshi

On May 5, 10:20 pm, Neil Soares <drneilsoa...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi Prof. Singh,
>    Photographs of both trees posted by you appear to be of Terminalia arjuna. 
> Have both these trees on my property.
>   If I may try and explain the differences:
> 1. T.arjuna / T.cuneata [Arjun] has a smooth, white bark flaking off in 
> layers and resembles the bark of a Guava tree, whereas T.elliptica / 
> T.tomentosa / T.crenulata [Ain] has a dark brown deeply fissured bark which 
> is often referred to as ' Crocodile bark'.
> 2. As Mr. Ingalhalikar has pointed out the lines on the wings of the fruit 
> are curved in T.arjuna whereas they are straight in T.elliptica.
> 3. T.arjuna can stand waterlogging and hence is growing well in the middle of 
> my stream, but have always encountered T.elliptica far away from the banks of 
> the stream.
>                                With regards,
>                                  Neil Soares.
>
> --- On Wed, 5/5/10, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> From: Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:34106] Re: Riparian Trees | ID 06Mar2010AR01
> To: "shrikant ingalhalikar" <le...@rediffmail.com>
> Cc: "efloraofindia" <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>
> Date: Wednesday, May 5, 2010, 8:38 PM
>
> Thanks Shrikant ji for removing my confusion
> But perhaps, I am still not clear. I will be uploading my photographs 
> separately for you to have a look at them
>
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> On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 7:47 PM, shrikant ingalhalikar <le...@rediffmail.com> 
> wrote:
>
> Dear Dr. Singhji,
> I have identified the tree as T. cuneata syn T, arjuna (not as T.
> elliptica syn T. crenulata) from the stem, bark and fruits. T. cuneata
> has uneven stem with yellowish white bark. T. elliptica has tall
> cylindric stem with rough bark (crocodile back). The key goes as
> below.
> Fruits 5-winged, spikes panicled
>       -Wings of fruits hard, lines on wings curved upwards > T.
> cuneata
>       -Wings of fruits papery, lines on wings straight         > T.
> elliptica
> Hope this sorts out the confusion. Regards, Shrikant
>
> On May 5, 4:47 pm, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > Shrikant ji
> > I just found out that T. elliptica is closer to (or correct name for) T.
> > crenulata (T. tomentosa). If distinct how to differentiate the two. GRIN as
> > well as Useful plants of India treat them distinct (latter T. alata (syn: T.
> > tomentosa) and T. crenulata (T. tomentosa var. crenulata)).
>
> > --
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> > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> > Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>
> > On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 4:43 PM, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Shrikant ji
> > > Perhaps more than 80 per cent trees in our big area of Janak Puri and 
> > > Vikas
> > > Puri belong to Terminalia that have been confusing me for a long time.
> > > Finally I thought I had solved mystery and identified two species T. 
> > > arjuna
> > > and T. tomentosa (correctly known as T. crenulata) largely on the basis of
> > > shorter spikes, early flowering April-May, and smaller wings in T. arjuna
> > > and longer spikes, late flowering May-June and longer wings in T. 
> > > tomentosa,
> > > although I could not verify often mentioned rough bark in latter. With 
> > > your
> > > identifying above plant as T. elliptica (syn T. alata), I am again in
> > > dilemma as my Brandis Indian Trees does not include either. Could you 
> > > kindly
> > > tell me how to differentiate T. arjuna from T. elliptica?.
>
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> > > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> > > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> > > Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
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> > > On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 4:16 PM, shrikant ingalhalikar <
> > > le...@rediffmail.com> wrote:
>
> > >> Terminalia cuneata or Arjun tree. Regards, Shrikant
>
> > >> On May 5, 2:38 pm, raghu ananth <raghu_...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > >> > While we took a small break near the rivers of the Anchetty forests,  
> > >> > we
> > >> came across many of these interesting tree species, most of them rested 
> > >> in
> > >> the banks or in the midst of the river,  gone dry in summer. The trees in
> > >> these scrub forests are dwarf except in these rivulets where they reach
> > >> great heights upto 120 feet. We watched a number of such trees amidst the
> > >> river during our drive for more than 10 kms (Mar 2010).   Wonder how 
> > >> these
> > >> trees withstand the gushing river floods during monsoons.  And most
> > >> importantly, these gigiantic trees in the rivers are untouched by human
> > >> hands. At Hogenakkal, while hitching a ride on the coracle, the boatman
> > >> would often take us around these trees!  Some of these magnificent  trees
> > >> are several centuries old (200-350 years approx)
> > >> >  Probably Mekedatu, Muttati in Karnataka, Anchetty and Hogenakal on the
> > >> Tamilnadu-Karnataka border are the best places to see tree kinds in the 
> > >> mid
> > >> of river cauvery river. I suppose  Terminalia arjuna, grows quite tall 
> > >> and
> > >> are found in good numbers in the turbulent Cauvery river.
>
> > >> > Date/Time-
> > >> >   08 Mar 2010
> > >> > Location- Place, Altitude, GPS-
> > >> >   Amidst the dry river stream, Anchetty - Hogenakal, Tamil Nadu
> > >> > Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type-
> > >> >   River banks, streams, rivulets, Wild, forest
> > >> > Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb-
> > >> >   Tree
> > >> > Height/Length-
> > >> >   50-60 feet
> > >> > Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size-
> > >> >   alternate, elliptic, 5 inches
> > >> > Inflorescence Type/ Size-
> > >> >   -
> > >> > Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts-
> > >> >   Not seen
> > >> > Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds-
> > >> >   5 winged fruit, Brownish red
> > >> > Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.- Definitely not
> > >> a Vitex leucoxylon tree / T.elliptica /T. crenulata
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