---------- Forwarded message --------- From: J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 18 Aug 2019 at 19:14 Subject: Re: [itpmods:13015] Fwd: Marathon Man- Sh. Saroj Kasaju To: itpmods <itpm...@googlegroups.com> Cc: Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com>, Ushadi Micromini < microminipho...@gmail.com>, itpmods <itpm...@googlegroups.com>
Correctly pointed out by Singh ji. It is also helping us as some of our members get ids on Facebook and post these on efi group. That is why almost 95 % of the groups have already been wiped out. On Sun, 18 Aug 2019 at 18:56, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear Saroj ji > I think you have not understood the power of Facebook groups while making > this statement > " However, I feel FB posts are just for fun and not so serious like efi." > I have been travelling USA for last 11 years, have shared many plants here > also. This year I am visiting Canada also. Earlier it would take me several > hours/days to identify a plant new for me looking at my Manual of > Cultivated Plants, Hortus Third and Online databases like Japson Flora of > California and eFlora website which has N. America plants also. Now > whenever I get any new plant, which I am not able to identify easily, I > simply upload it to Facebook Group "Plant Identification" which has > 1,70,000 members, and I get identification or a clue within few minutes, my > database is getting updated very fast. I have passed through all phases > since our first visit to Ladakh in 1970 when there was no public transport > and we managed by hitchhiking rides from army vehicles, to our own > University jeep in later years. Luckily I have learnt to keep pace with > developing technology and make best use of recent facilities. > > > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Mob: 9810359089 > http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ > > > On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 8:00 AM Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Thanks Gargi ji, Ushadi who is always frank coming from her heart and >> Saroj ji. Our immediate focus is how to revive our interactions. To me the >> best solutions looks like reviving Genus/Family Fortnights. To avoid >> unnecessary repetitions let us first make a list of genera/families well >> represented in India, and which have not been covered in our group. I am >> sure it will help in enriching and adding new species to our database. >> Please do suggest such genera/families >> >> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> Retired Associate Professor >> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> Mob: 9810359089 >> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >> >> >> On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 1:33 AM Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Thank you Gurucharan sir for the valuable suggestions. I am also active >>> on FB and I have >>> my own page Flora of Nepal. However, I feel FB posts are just for fun >>> and not so serious >>> like efi. >>> >>> Thank you all for the appreciation ! >>> >>> Thank you. >>> >>> Saroj Kasaju >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 11:13 AM Ushadi Micromini < >>> microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Quote: *So the choice is left over to members- whether they want >>>> likes or they want their work to be constructively used in the website and >>>> appreciated by all over the world, albeit without their knowledge. end >>>> quote* >>>> >>>> >>>> *Agree with you Garg ji.* >>>> >>>> *I for one donot want FACEBOOK* >>>> *NO whats up* >>>> *no hankering after likes* >>>> *no temporary feel good....* >>>> >>>> *we at efloraindia/indiatreepix are going in the correct direction* >>>> *with a website and a way to follow up* >>>> *and getting references , etc* >>>> >>>> *Gurcharanji, thats our strength* >>>> >>>> *i was hoping you will agree.* >>>> >>>> *Facebook is being deleted by most academicians i know from their >>>> repertoire of communication.* >>>> >>>> *in the past i tried looking in that group and similar ones, most of >>>> the partakers are happy with half baked ideas it seemed, * >>>> *i am sure there are exceptions like you in that group, still.... not >>>> a very long reaching long lasting endeavor. waste of time.* >>>> >>>> *regards* >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 10:01 AM J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks, Singh ji. for the valuable suggestions. >>>>> I agree with you. But the onslaught of Facebook and what's up has >>>>> changed things dramatically. >>>>> I think more than 95% of the groups have been almost wiped out, due to >>>>> the reason of numerous likes and quick feedback. >>>>> I once tried to appreciate all the posts, being posted in our group. >>>>> But has to stop due to lack of time. >>>>> >>>>> But we have some advantages also. >>>>> Although posts may not be appreciated with likes, but are incorporated >>>>> in our site with images, for everybody in the world to use and appreciate >>>>> them. >>>>> I did lot of Wikipedia and Wikimedia Commons work. But there was no >>>>> direct appreciation in form of likes etc. >>>>> But it still stays like this and being used all over the world. I am >>>>> more than happy with my contributions. >>>>> >>>>> So the choice is left over to members- whether they want likes or they >>>>> want their work to be constructively used in the website and appreciated >>>>> by >>>>> all over the world, albeit without their knowledge. >>>>> So we have our pool divided. Some will like to post both on the >>>>> Facebook and efi group. Some will like only Facebook, while some others >>>>> may >>>>> like only efi group. >>>>> Choice is theirs. Nobody can change it except they themselves. >>>>> >>>>> However, I wish our members and experts help us in enriching our >>>>> database more and more, along with helping in our ids. >>>>> If somebody can find way and means to get them more involved, it will >>>>> be really wonderful and appreciable. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, 16 Aug 2019 at 18:07, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Congratulations Saroj ji, wish those Golden days are back when group >>>>>> had contributions by all on a large scale. Although group is now doing >>>>>> more >>>>>> productive job of updating the website and making it useful for general >>>>>> public, but I wish we also devote our energy to using the talent of >>>>>> experts >>>>>> here for adding new species to our database. I tried to do it a few >>>>>> times, >>>>>> but found that whereas same post received more than 100 responses in my >>>>>> Facebook Groups, it did not receive a single reply even for several days. >>>>>> We have to do something to keep group active among members, not just few >>>>>> exchanges among moderator group. >>>>>> >>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>> Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Aug 16, 2019 at 7:41 AM Dr. Anil Kumar Thakur < >>>>>> anilthakur2...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you for contributing, Saroj ji >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Fri, 16 Aug, 2019, 5:05 PM Ponnutheerthagiri Santhan, < >>>>>>> ponsant...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Congratulation Saroj ji for your contributions to eflora. >>>>>>>> *Thanks ®ards* >>>>>>>> *Dr. Santhan P* >>>>>>>> *Industrial R&D expert, Plant taxonomist* >>>>>>>> Author of the Book *"Trees of our Life" *Botany, Chemistry, >>>>>>>> Medicine >>>>>>>> *9**444813474/9620389349* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 5:28 PM Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thank you Mr. Garg for appreciation. However, I could achieve this >>>>>>>>> feat with the ceaseles guidance >>>>>>>>> from pioneers and stalwarts of this group like yourself, Nidhan >>>>>>>>> Sir, Gurucharan Sir, Dinish Ji, Rawat Ji, >>>>>>>>> Pankaj, Tapas Da, Ritesh ji, Manoj Ji and all other members. Time >>>>>>>>> again I have been receiving >>>>>>>>> suggestions from many seniors to capture the images in a proper >>>>>>>>> way so as to cover all aspects of >>>>>>>>> plants. I agree that I am one of the most junior to join this >>>>>>>>> group and still trying to improve myself. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thank you all once again from my core of heart >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sun, Aug 11, 2019 at 5:29 PM J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message --------- >>>>>>>>>> From: J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> Date: Sun, 11 Aug 2019 at 17:13 >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Marathon Man- Sh. Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Dear members, >>>>>>>>>> Saroj ji has been becoming Most Interactive Person/ Star Expert >>>>>>>>>> every month without fail from July'16 to July'19, for more than past >>>>>>>>>> three >>>>>>>>>> years, without fail. This is a feat which nobody has achieved so far. >>>>>>>>>> When our Stalwarts like G. Singh ji, Dinesh ji, Balkar ji, Tanay >>>>>>>>>> ji, Nidhan ji, Aarti ji, Ushadi, Surajit ji, Pankajji etc. have >>>>>>>>>> taken some >>>>>>>>>> rest, Saroj ji has come up like anything. He never allowed us to >>>>>>>>>> feel their >>>>>>>>>> vacuum. >>>>>>>>>> He showed us the path like others mentioned before. He showed us >>>>>>>>>> how beautifully images can not only be captured but also posted. In >>>>>>>>>> his >>>>>>>>>> images, we can see very fine details required for complicated ids. >>>>>>>>>> His >>>>>>>>>> output of images on efi will not be less than 30,000 images, if my >>>>>>>>>> guess is >>>>>>>>>> correct. However, Saroj ji may give us a better estimate. >>>>>>>>>> Now he has taken upon himself to look into each post and suggest >>>>>>>>>> appropriate ids. >>>>>>>>>> His retirement has been a boon to efloraofindia. >>>>>>>>>> He is like a brightest star now in the sky. I have no better >>>>>>>>>> words than this to highlight his outstanding contribution in the >>>>>>>>>> building >>>>>>>>>> of efloraofindia. >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia> >>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of >>>>>>>>>> Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest >>>>>>>>>> in the world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on >>>>>>>>>> 23.8.18) or Efloraofindia >>>>>>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a >>>>>>>>>> species database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of >>>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>>> more than 1,70,000 images are directly displayed). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more >>>>>>>>>> than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, >>>>>>>>>> Butterflies, >>>>>>>>>> Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use >>>>>>>>>> them >>>>>>>>>> for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common >>>>>>>>>> Birds of India'. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia> >>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of >>>>>>>>>> Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest >>>>>>>>>> in the world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on >>>>>>>>>> 23.8.18) or Efloraofindia >>>>>>>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a >>>>>>>>>> species database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of >>>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>>> more than 1,70,000 images are directly displayed). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more >>>>>>>>>> than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, >>>>>>>>>> Butterflies, >>>>>>>>>> Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use >>>>>>>>>> them >>>>>>>>>> for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common >>>>>>>>>> Birds of India'. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "ITPmods" group. >>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>>> send an email to itpmods+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CA%2BiuSFD0rGYcUztfQwKAucQbNTTtc2%3DQs2_fq76UZixaRU3uSQ%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CA%2BiuSFD0rGYcUztfQwKAucQbNTTtc2%3DQs2_fq76UZixaRU3uSQ%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "ITPmods" group. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>>> send an email to itpmods+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CAEf%3DytTqVQ0CdvZZRiQ7GYjxA_oxmgmg-jT7cuyNVTHaxftJdw%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CAEf%3DytTqVQ0CdvZZRiQ7GYjxA_oxmgmg-jT7cuyNVTHaxftJdw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "ITPmods" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to itpmods+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CAJa_cDiM7ah1PNO8ag0O%2BmrADtRxcwE1ojt-4Bd5tx4FH-Pmrg%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CAJa_cDiM7ah1PNO8ag0O%2BmrADtRxcwE1ojt-4Bd5tx4FH-Pmrg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "ITPmods" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to itpmods+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CAEWs%3DZnpsoG6KH05sr9edpXAXn7aFenhE2qmYy%3D3eff6PjFqXg%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CAEWs%3DZnpsoG6KH05sr9edpXAXn7aFenhE2qmYy%3D3eff6PjFqXg%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>>> . >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>> Groups "ITPmods" group. >>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>> send an email to itpmods+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CAHiXKpU18XUjP9Bv0QmFuPZFoncAGiDrDCgbwUwJEMq93WRf9w%40mail.gmail.com >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CAHiXKpU18XUjP9Bv0QmFuPZFoncAGiDrDCgbwUwJEMq93WRf9w%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>>> . >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> With regards, >>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>> >>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>> >>>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in >>>>> the world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or >>>>> Efloraofindia >>>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a >>>>> species database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which >>>>> more than 1,70,000 images are directly displayed). >>>>> >>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>>>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants >>>>> etc. >>>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as >>>>> per Creative Commons license attached with each image. >>>>> >>>>> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of >>>>> India'. >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "ITPmods" group. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>>> an email to itpmods+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>> To view this discussion on the web, visit >>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CA%2BiuSFDWsNhw5LHww5-xo81wDtOo8O%3DjaWNgLyM6mQ4v96cLvw%40mail.gmail.com >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CA%2BiuSFDWsNhw5LHww5-xo81wDtOo8O%3DjaWNgLyM6mQ4v96cLvw%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> >>>>> . >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Usha di >>>> =========== >>>> >>> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "ITPmods" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to itpmods+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To view this discussion on the web, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CAHiXKpXvtdD9o9mAG7%3DGTiaq5t5C9tH%2Bv4mWBHKQo6bFhj97ow%40mail.gmail.com > <https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/itpmods/CAHiXKpXvtdD9o9mAG7%3DGTiaq5t5C9tH%2Bv4mWBHKQo6bFhj97ow%40mail.gmail.com?utm_medium=email&utm_source=footer> > . > -- With regards, J.M.Garg 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or Efloraofindia website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which more than 1,70,000 images are directly displayed). The whole world uses my Image Resource <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of India'. -- With regards, J.M.Garg 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the world- more than 3,000 members & 3,00,000 messages on 23.8.18) or Efloraofindia website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species database of more than 13,000 species & 3,00,000 images of which more than 1,70,000 images are directly displayed). The whole world uses my Image Resource <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of India'. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion on the web, visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/indiantreepix/CA%2BiuSFAkh-QZxESCT4aQ2AykKV6K%2BG%2ByS%3Dkv0pKK1%2BCBRc%2BNag%40mail.gmail.com.
