Garg Ji,
Thanks for the details.
I am really confused.
Regards,
Aarti

On Tue, Jan 21, 2020 at 4:54 PM J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On checking all the posts in efi site for both the species, confusion
> remains despite the details and keys as above. This must have been
> further compounded by being in cultivation for a long period.
> Catalogue of Life
> <https://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/search/all/key/Jasminum+multiflorum/fossil/1/match/1>
> lists five varieties as below,
> *Jasminum multiflorum f. acuminatissimum* (Blume) Bakh.f.
> <https://mail.google.com/col/details/species/id/fec8d7f5317f8cb42accd638709cb9c4/synonym/9603436c03e2a5ce5da5fa91a52c1344>
> synonym for *Jasminum elongatum* (P.J.Bergius) Willd.
> <https://mail.google.com/col/details/species/id/fec8d7f5317f8cb42accd638709cb9c4/synonym/9603436c03e2a5ce5da5fa91a52c1344>
> *Jasminum multiflorum f. acuminatissimum* (Blume) Bakh.f.
> <https://mail.google.com/col/details/species/id/fec8d7f5317f8cb42accd638709cb9c4/synonym/9603436c03e2a5ce5da5fa91a52c1344>
> synonym for *Jasminum elongatum* (P.J.Bergius) Willd.
> <https://mail.google.com/col/details/species/id/fec8d7f5317f8cb42accd638709cb9c4/synonym/7e0594ceaf91faaf1fd85a9df4995e45>
> *Jasminum multiflorum f. subelongatum* (Blume) Bakh.f.
> <https://mail.google.com/col/details/species/id/fec8d7f5317f8cb42accd638709cb9c4/synonym/c41db9b6dc3603bcbfa9b78f2c019816>
> synonym for *Jasminum elongatum* (P.J.Bergius) Willd.
> <https://mail.google.com/col/details/species/id/fec8d7f5317f8cb42accd638709cb9c4/synonym/c41db9b6dc3603bcbfa9b78f2c019816>
>
> *Jasminum multiflorum f. pubescens* (Retz.) Bakh.f.
> <https://mail.google.com/col/details/species/id/79ef6a0298c4fe70a4d1ff4ed69d935b/synonym/feab2e5dce914a2537adb61fc7a3e88b>
> synonym for *Jasminum multiflorum* (Burm.f.) Andrews
> <https://mail.google.com/col/details/species/id/79ef6a0298c4fe70a4d1ff4ed69d935b/synonym/feab2e5dce914a2537adb61fc7a3e88b>
> *Jasminum multiflorum var. nicobaricum* Thoth.
> <https://mail.google.com/col/details/species/id/79ef6a0298c4fe70a4d1ff4ed69d935b/synonym/23763eeec7a6e16155018b1fb7372c3b>
> synonym for *Jasminum multiflorum* (Burm.f.) Andrews
> <https://mail.google.com/col/details/species/id/79ef6a0298c4fe70a4d1ff4ed69d935b/synonym/23763eeec7a6e16155018b1fb7372c3b>
>
> Both Flora of Pakistan
> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=200017779>
> and Checklist of Nepal
> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=110&taxon_id=200017779>
> list *Jasminum elongatum* (Bergius) Willdenow as *Jasminum amplexicaule 
> *Buch.-Ham.
> ex G. Don (This species resembles *Jasminum multiflorum* very much but
> differs in its shorter calyx teeth and corolla lobes, and in its scentless
> flowers. The venation of the leaves is more or less open in *Jasminum
> amplexicaule* whereas it is closed in *Jasminum multiflorum* as per Flora
> of Pakistan
> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=200017779>)
>
> Flora of Pakistan
> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=116771> gives
> the following keys:
> 16 (15)
> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=116771#KEY-1-15> 
> *Flowers
> fragrant*; cymes sometimes axillary or on dwarf Lateral branchlets. Calyx
> fulvous-villous, teeth almost as long as the corolla tube. *Frequently
> cultivated*   Jasminum multiflorum
> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=210000873>
> + *Flowers scentless*; cymes terminal, Calyx pubescent, teeth of about
> half the length of the corolla tube. *Rarely cultivated*   Jasminum
> amplexicaule
> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=200017779> (syn.
> of *Jasminum elongatum* (Bergius) Willdenow)
>
> However, some aspects appear to be contradictory to Flora of China
> description.
>
>
> On Tue, 21 Jan 2020 at 15:13, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Here is the description for both from Flora of China:
>> *Jasminum multiflorum* (N. L. Burman) Andrews
>> *Shrubs, scrambler or weak climbers to 3 m.* Branchlets terete, densely
>> pilose. Leaves opposite, simple; *petiole 5-10 mm, densely pilose*; *leaf
>> blade ovate-cordate*, often broadly so, 3-8 × 1.5-5 cm, papery*, ±
>> scattered pilose on both surfaces, glabrescent*, except on midrib and
>> veins, *base cordate*, *apex acute to sometimes slightly acuminate,
>> mucronulate*; primary veins 3 or 4 on each side of midrib. *Inflorescences
>> terminal on side shoots*, many flowered, congested; *bracts leafy, basal
>> ovate*, 1.5-2 cm, upper linear, 3-5 mm. *Pedicel 0-2 mm*. *Calyx densely
>> pilose*; tube ca. 1 mm; lobes 6-9, filiform, (2-)5-7 mm. *Corolla white,
>> sweetly scented; tube 1.2-1.5 cm;* *lobes 7-9, acute, *1-1.5 cm. *Fruit
>> not seen*. *Fl. Oct-Apr.*
>> *Widely cultivated in southern China and round the world [Native to India
>> *and perhaps elsewhere in SE Asia, but certainly not in Nepal, Pakistan,
>> and Sri Lanka, and doubtfully in Myanmar and Vietnam]
>>
>> *Jasminum elongatum* (Bergius) Willdenow
>> *Shrubs scandent, 1-7 m.* Branchlets terete, slightly pubescent to
>> densely tomentose. Leaves opposite, simple; *petiole 2-6 mm; leaf blade
>> ovate to lanceolate*, (1.5-)3-11 × 2-5.5 cm, papery, *pubescent or
>> glabrescent except for hairy veins abaxially,* *base rounded, truncate,
>> or subcordate*, *apex usually acute; *primary veins 3 or 4 on each side
>> of midrib. Cymes terminal or axillary, many flowered, congested; *bracts
>> linear or ovate-lanceolate*, 1-5(-9) mm. *Pedicel 1-4 mm*. *Calyx
>> densely tomentose to glabrescent*; lobes 6-8, subulate-filiform,
>> 5-10(-14) mm. *Corolla white, salverform; tube 1.5-2 (-3) cm; lobes 6-9,
>> lanceolate, *8-11(-14) mm. *Berry black, subglobose or ovoid*, 1-1.2 cm
>> × 5-8 mm.* Fl. Apr-Dec,* fr. Aug-Mar. 2*n* = 26*.
>> Thickets, mixed forests; 0-900 m. Guangdong, Guangxi, Guizhou, Hainan,
>> Yunnan [*India*, Indonesia, Malaysia, Myanmar, Vietnam; N Australia]
>> *Jasminum elongatum* is a very widespread and variable species.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, 21 Jan 2020 at 14:49, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I think it should be *Jasminum multiflorum* (Burm.f.) Andrews
>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/o/oleaceae/jasminum/jasminum-multiflorum>
>>>  as
>>> per images and details herein.
>>> *Jasminum multiflorum* (Burm.f.) Andrews
>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/o/oleaceae/jasminum/jasminum-multiflorum>
>>>  appears confusing with *Jasminum elongatum* (P.J.Bergius) Willd.
>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/o/oleaceae/jasminum/jasminum-elongatum>
>>> Here are the keys from Flora of China to differentiate between the two:
>>> 44 (43)
>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=116771#KEY-1-43>
>>>  Leaves
>>> ovate-cordate, base cordate, pilose on both surfaces; corolla tube 1.2-1.5
>>> cm   36 Jasminum multiflorum
>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=210000873>
>>> + Leaves ovate to lanceolate, base often cuneate to rounded or
>>> truncate, pubescent or glabrous except along veins abaxially; corolla tube
>>> 1.5-3 cm.   (45)
>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=116771#KEY-1-45>
>>>
>>> 45 (44)
>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=116771#KEY-1-44>
>>>  Leaves
>>> usually acuminate, 4.5-15 cm; corolla lobes 1.2-1.7 cm   35 Jasminum
>>> tonkinense
>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=210000889>
>>> + Leaves acute, 1.5-11 cm; corolla lobes 0.8-1.1 cm   34 Jasminum
>>> elongatum
>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=210000859>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
>>> From: Aarti S. Khale <aarti.kh...@gmail.com>
>>> Date: Tue, 14 Jan 2020 at 18:39
>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:340388] Jasminum Species for ID : Pune : 14JAN20
>>> : AK-19
>>> To: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jasminum Species seen at a housing complex in Pune.
>>> A cultivated plant.
>>> Aarti
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