No, it is S.lanceifolia On Tue, 21 Mar 2023 at 21:15, Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> This is Smilax wallichii Kunth ! > > > Thank you. > > Saroj Kasaju > > > On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 9:16 PM J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Based on detailed description and keys, 1st one is S.lanceifolia and 2nd >> one is S. wallichii. >> >> On Tue, 21 Mar 2023 at 20:30, Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Dear Mr. Garg, >>> >>> Please have a look at these two images, one each from Suryabinayak, S. >>> wallichii having >>> all leaf venation emerging from the base of the leaf, and from >>> Phulchoki, S. lanceifolia having >>> leaf venation emerging differently from the base of the leaf. >>> May I have your opinion please ! >>> >>> Thank you. >>> >>> Saroj Kasaju >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 8:43 PM Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Mr. Garg, >>>> >>>> Please have a look at these two images, one each from Suryabinayak, S. >>>> wallichii having >>>> all leaf venation emerging from the base of the leaf, and from >>>> Phulchoki, S. lanceifolia having >>>> leaf venation emerging differently from the base of the leaf. >>>> May I have your opinion please ! >>>> >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 6:02 PM J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Here are the details: >>>>> >>>>> From your book (*S.wallichii*) >>>>> >>>>> From your book (*S.lanceifolia*) >>>>> >>>>> Large climbing vine reaching sometimes up to the top canopy of the >>>>> forest, with stout stems. Flowering branches, terete, striate and >>>>> *sparsely >>>>> prickly, prickles hooked downwards; *stem cross section round; scales >>>>> 1.5*1 cm, brown. >>>>> Leaves shining green; *petioles winged, non clasping, *wings >>>>> triangular 1-2 mm long, wings narrow in younger leaves; *tendrils >>>>> arising in pair from the base of the wings; abscission at the base of the >>>>> tendrils;* >>>>> >>>>> leaves shape oblanceolate to lanceolate,* leaf base truncate,* apex >>>>> acuminate; *nerves 5-7, triplinerved,* two lateral veins jointed upto >>>>> 3 mm above the leaf base, marginal veins weak. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *Inflorescence branched umbel containing 1-3 umbels, sometimes >>>>> solitary umbel.* *one or more rudimentary umble is always present; *bracts >>>>> present, almost triangular, 4-5*3-3.5 mm, arising from half of the >>>>> peduncle >>>>> where the umbel branches; receptacle reniform; prophylls present, >>>>> triangular 7*7 mm, tio acuminate; peduncle longer than pedicel; >>>>> *25-40 flowers per umbel in male, 15-25 flowers per umbel in female. >>>>> *Staminate >>>>> flower: flowers bell shaped; perianth 6, dimorphic, arranged in two >>>>> whorls, >>>>> outer lanceolate, 9*3 mm, inner linear, 9*1 mm, recurved on blooming; >>>>> *stamens >>>>> 6, ca 9 mm long, all equal in size,* filaments 8 mm long, fales union >>>>> up to 3.5-4 mm from the base, anther lobes white, lanceolate, 1-1.5 mm >>>>> long. Female flowers: smaller the male, light green, perianth 6, arranged >>>>> in two whorls, outer whorl of lanceolate, 5.5*2.5 mm, inner whorl of >>>>> linear, 5*1 mm; staminodes 3, arising from the gap of inner and outer >>>>> perianth, linear, 3-3.5 mm; *stigma 3, *curved downwards, almost >>>>> reniform, 1.5*1 mm. *Fruit berry, 4-5 mm diameter, green when unripe, >>>>> young fruit is always glaucous, red when ripe. * >>>>> >>>>> Climbing vine with long, woody, terete stems; scales 2, Outer one >>>>> covering inner one 7*4 mm; flowering branches elongate, terete or >>>>> obscurely >>>>> angular, smooth, sometimes variegated, 2-3 mm across, green. >>>>> >>>>> Leaves dark green; *petioles 10-15 mm, bent upward above the middle,* >>>>> lower petiole winged for 6-8 mm, wings narrow 2-3 mm wide; *tendrils >>>>> rudimentary in flowering branch, strong and persistent in non-flowering >>>>> branch;* >>>>> blades variable in shape and size, broadly oblanceolate to lanceolate, >>>>> 5-16*2-8 cm, upper surface shining; *base obtuse,* apex acuminate,* >>>>> trinerved, 3+2 nerved, *sometimes 2 lateral nerves present in large >>>>> leaves not terminating at the apex veinlets distinct in lower surface. >>>>> >>>>> *Inflorescence single umbel,* bracts single, almost triangular, 3*4 >>>>> mm, obtuse; *15-20 flowers per umbel in male, 10-15 flowers per umbel >>>>> in female, *receptacle reniform; pedicle always longer than the >>>>> peduncle. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Staminate flowers light green, perianth 6, arranged in two whorls, inner >>>>> whorl linear, 5*1 mm, alternating outer whorl lanceolate, 5-6*1.5-2 >>>>> mm, *stamens 6, dimorphic, longer stamens 6 mm long alternating with >>>>> short stamens 5 mm,* anther lobes ca 1 mm long white, spathulate, >>>>> extrose. >>>>> Pistillate flowers light green; perianth shorter than staminate >>>>> flower, dimorphic, outer almost triangular 2.5*1 mm, alternating inner >>>>> almost linear, 2.5*0.5 mm; staminodes 3, pointed apex bifurcate, ca 1 mm >>>>> long; *stigma 2,* reniform, ca 1 mm long, ovary oval, disc present. *Fruit >>>>> berry, dark green when immature, ca 2 mm in diameter.* >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> As per Flora of China >>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200027927> >>>>> >>>>> Vines climbing. Stem branched, terete, 1--2 m, woody; branchlets >>>>> occasionally zigzagged. Petiole 1--2(--2.5) cm, narrowly winged for >>>>> 1/5--1/4 its length; abscission zone at middle; tendrils usually present. >>>>> Leaf blade lanceolate to ovate-oblong, 6--17 × 2--8 cm. Inflorescence of >>>>> 1(or 2) umbels, basally prophyllate; peduncle 1--1.5 cm, proximally >>>>> articulate; umbels of both sexes densely 20--30-flowered, base slightly >>>>> thickened. Male flowers: tepals yellowish green, 3--4.5 × ca. 1 mm; >>>>> stamens >>>>> 3--4 mm. Female flowers: tepals 1.5--2 × ca. 0.6 mm; staminodes 6. Berries >>>>> yellowish red to black, globose, 6--7 mm in diam. Fl. Sep--Mar, fr. >>>>> Oct--Nov. >>>>> >>>>> All these points of it being *S.lanceilfolia*. >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, 21 Mar 2023 at 16:29, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Sorry, you have already posted it. >>>>>> I will check. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, 21 Mar 2023 at 16:29, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi, Saroj ji. >>>>>>> As per keys, it should be S.lanceifolia. >>>>>>> I have not found a description of S.wallichii on the net. >>>>>>> Can you post it here for further examination? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, 16 Mar 2023 at 13:26, Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thank you Mr. Garg >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 1:40 PM J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I will further examine, with the detailed descriptions. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Thu, 16 Mar 2023 at 13:23, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Saroj ji. >>>>>>>>>> It says inflorescence single umbel, costate, trinerved for >>>>>>>>>> *S.lanceifolia* and branched umbel, costate, trinerved or >>>>>>>>>> triplinerved for *S.wallichii* >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 16 Mar 2023 at 12:45, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Maybe yes. I do not see continuity between these two pages. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 16 Mar 2023 at 12:43, Saroj Kasaju < >>>>>>>>>>> kasajusa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Do you mean by Keys pages ? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 12:36 PM J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> But I am not able to relate them s.no. wise. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 16 Mar 2023 at 12:15, Saroj Kasaju < >>>>>>>>>>>>> kasajusa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Same book ! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 12:24 PM J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are these from two different books? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 14 Mar 2023 at 12:19, Saroj Kasaju < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kasajusa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 14 Mar 2023 at 12:33 pm, Saroj Kasaju < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kasajusa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 14 Mar 2023 at 12:28 pm, J.M. Garg < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any keys? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> J. M. Garg >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 13 Mar, 2023, 18:03 Saroj Kasaju, < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kasajusa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 5:37 PM J.M. Garg < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How is it different from images at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://efloraofindia.com/2017/03/03/smilax-lanceifolia/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 12 Mar 2023 at 14:08, Saroj Kasaju < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kasajusa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Members, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Location: Suryavinayak, Bhaktapur, Nepal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: 02 March 2023 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Elevation: 1364 m. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Habit : Wild >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> With regards, >>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> With regards, >>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>> >>>> >> >> -- >> With regards, >> J.M.Garg >> > -- With regards, J.M.Garg -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. 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