I have already sent you keys for all sp. from his book. Thank you.
Saroj Kasaju On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 3:08 PM J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks, Saroj ji, > That means the keys given in the book are not correct to differentiate the > two. > Can you get the keys between the two, from him? > > On Wed, 29 Mar 2023 at 13:27, Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Mr. Sajan Subedi has confirmed this as S. wallichii ! >> >> Thank you. >> >> Saroj Kasaju >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 23, 2023 at 1:44 PM J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> No, it is S.lanceifolia >>> >>> On Tue, 21 Mar 2023 at 21:15, Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> This is Smilax wallichii Kunth ! >>>> >>>> >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 9:16 PM J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Based on detailed description and keys, 1st one is S.lanceifolia and >>>>> 2nd one is S. wallichii. >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, 21 Mar 2023 at 20:30, Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Dear Mr. Garg, >>>>>> >>>>>> Please have a look at these two images, one each from Suryabinayak, >>>>>> S. wallichii having >>>>>> all leaf venation emerging from the base of the leaf, and from >>>>>> Phulchoki, S. lanceifolia having >>>>>> leaf venation emerging differently from the base of the leaf. >>>>>> May I have your opinion please ! >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>> >>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 8:43 PM Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear Mr. Garg, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Please have a look at these two images, one each from Suryabinayak, >>>>>>> S. wallichii having >>>>>>> all leaf venation emerging from the base of the leaf, and from >>>>>>> Phulchoki, S. lanceifolia having >>>>>>> leaf venation emerging differently from the base of the leaf. >>>>>>> May I have your opinion please ! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Mar 21, 2023 at 6:02 PM J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Here are the details: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From your book (*S.wallichii*) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> From your book (*S.lanceifolia*) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Large climbing vine reaching sometimes up to the top canopy of the >>>>>>>> forest, with stout stems. Flowering branches, terete, striate and >>>>>>>> *sparsely >>>>>>>> prickly, prickles hooked downwards; *stem cross section round; >>>>>>>> scales 1.5*1 cm, brown. >>>>>>>> Leaves shining green; *petioles winged, non clasping, *wings >>>>>>>> triangular 1-2 mm long, wings narrow in younger leaves; *tendrils >>>>>>>> arising in pair from the base of the wings; abscission at the base of >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> tendrils;* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> leaves shape oblanceolate to lanceolate,* leaf base truncate,* >>>>>>>> apex acuminate; *nerves 5-7, triplinerved,* two lateral veins >>>>>>>> jointed upto 3 mm above the leaf base, marginal veins weak. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *Inflorescence branched umbel containing 1-3 umbels, sometimes >>>>>>>> solitary umbel.* *one or more rudimentary umble is always present; >>>>>>>> *bracts present, almost triangular, 4-5*3-3.5 mm, arising from >>>>>>>> half of the peduncle where the umbel branches; receptacle reniform; >>>>>>>> prophylls present, triangular 7*7 mm, tio acuminate; peduncle longer >>>>>>>> than >>>>>>>> pedicel; >>>>>>>> *25-40 flowers per umbel in male, 15-25 flowers per umbel in >>>>>>>> female. *Staminate flower: flowers bell shaped; perianth 6, >>>>>>>> dimorphic, arranged in two whorls, outer lanceolate, 9*3 mm, inner >>>>>>>> linear, >>>>>>>> 9*1 mm, recurved on blooming; *stamens 6, ca 9 mm long, all equal >>>>>>>> in size,* filaments 8 mm long, fales union up to 3.5-4 mm from the >>>>>>>> base, anther lobes white, lanceolate, 1-1.5 mm long. Female flowers: >>>>>>>> smaller the male, light green, perianth 6, arranged in two whorls, >>>>>>>> outer >>>>>>>> whorl of lanceolate, 5.5*2.5 mm, inner whorl of linear, 5*1 mm; >>>>>>>> staminodes >>>>>>>> 3, arising from the gap of inner and outer perianth, linear, 3-3.5 mm; >>>>>>>> *stigma >>>>>>>> 3, *curved downwards, almost reniform, 1.5*1 mm. *Fruit berry, 4-5 >>>>>>>> mm diameter, green when unripe, young fruit is always glaucous, red >>>>>>>> when >>>>>>>> ripe. * >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Climbing vine with long, woody, terete stems; scales 2, Outer one >>>>>>>> covering inner one 7*4 mm; flowering branches elongate, terete or >>>>>>>> obscurely >>>>>>>> angular, smooth, sometimes variegated, 2-3 mm across, green. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Leaves dark green; *petioles 10-15 mm, bent upward above the >>>>>>>> middle,* lower petiole winged for 6-8 mm, wings narrow 2-3 mm >>>>>>>> wide; *tendrils rudimentary in flowering branch, strong and >>>>>>>> persistent in non-flowering branch;* >>>>>>>> blades variable in shape and size, broadly oblanceolate to >>>>>>>> lanceolate, 5-16*2-8 cm, upper surface shining; *base obtuse,* >>>>>>>> apex acuminate,* trinerved, 3+2 nerved, *sometimes 2 lateral >>>>>>>> nerves present in large leaves not terminating at the apex veinlets >>>>>>>> distinct in lower surface. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> *Inflorescence single umbel,* bracts single, almost triangular, >>>>>>>> 3*4 mm, obtuse; *15-20 flowers per umbel in male, 10-15 flowers >>>>>>>> per umbel in female, *receptacle reniform; pedicle always longer >>>>>>>> than the peduncle. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Staminate flowers light green, perianth 6, arranged in two whorls, >>>>>>>> inner >>>>>>>> whorl linear, 5*1 mm, alternating outer whorl lanceolate, >>>>>>>> 5-6*1.5-2 mm, *stamens 6, dimorphic, longer stamens 6 mm long >>>>>>>> alternating with short stamens 5 mm,* anther lobes ca 1 mm long >>>>>>>> white, spathulate, extrose. >>>>>>>> Pistillate flowers light green; perianth shorter than staminate >>>>>>>> flower, dimorphic, outer almost triangular 2.5*1 mm, alternating inner >>>>>>>> almost linear, 2.5*0.5 mm; staminodes 3, pointed apex bifurcate, ca 1 >>>>>>>> mm >>>>>>>> long; *stigma 2,* reniform, ca 1 mm long, ovary oval, disc >>>>>>>> present. *Fruit berry, dark green when immature, ca 2 mm in >>>>>>>> diameter.* >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> As per Flora of China >>>>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200027927> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Vines climbing. Stem branched, terete, 1--2 m, woody; branchlets >>>>>>>> occasionally zigzagged. Petiole 1--2(--2.5) cm, narrowly winged for >>>>>>>> 1/5--1/4 its length; abscission zone at middle; tendrils usually >>>>>>>> present. >>>>>>>> Leaf blade lanceolate to ovate-oblong, 6--17 × 2--8 cm. Inflorescence >>>>>>>> of >>>>>>>> 1(or 2) umbels, basally prophyllate; peduncle 1--1.5 cm, proximally >>>>>>>> articulate; umbels of both sexes densely 20--30-flowered, base slightly >>>>>>>> thickened. Male flowers: tepals yellowish green, 3--4.5 × ca. 1 mm; >>>>>>>> stamens >>>>>>>> 3--4 mm. Female flowers: tepals 1.5--2 × ca. 0.6 mm; staminodes 6. >>>>>>>> Berries >>>>>>>> yellowish red to black, globose, 6--7 mm in diam. Fl. Sep--Mar, fr. >>>>>>>> Oct--Nov. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> All these points of it being *S.lanceilfolia*. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, 21 Mar 2023 at 16:29, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sorry, you have already posted it. >>>>>>>>> I will check. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, 21 Mar 2023 at 16:29, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Hi, Saroj ji. >>>>>>>>>> As per keys, it should be S.lanceifolia. >>>>>>>>>> I have not found a description of S.wallichii on the net. >>>>>>>>>> Can you post it here for further examination? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 16 Mar 2023 at 13:26, Saroj Kasaju <kasajusa...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thank you Mr. Garg >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 1:40 PM J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I will further examine, with the detailed descriptions. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 16 Mar 2023 at 13:23, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Saroj ji. >>>>>>>>>>>>> It says inflorescence single umbel, costate, trinerved for >>>>>>>>>>>>> *S.lanceifolia* and branched umbel, costate, trinerved or >>>>>>>>>>>>> triplinerved for *S.wallichii* >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 16 Mar 2023 at 12:45, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Maybe yes. I do not see continuity between these two pages. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 16 Mar 2023 at 12:43, Saroj Kasaju < >>>>>>>>>>>>>> kasajusa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you mean by Keys pages ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 12:36 PM J.M. Garg < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But I am not able to relate them s.no. wise. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 16 Mar 2023 at 12:15, Saroj Kasaju < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kasajusa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Same book ! >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 12:24 PM J.M. Garg < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are these from two different books? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 14 Mar 2023 at 12:19, Saroj Kasaju < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kasajusa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 14 Mar 2023 at 12:33 pm, Saroj Kasaju < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kasajusa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, 14 Mar 2023 at 12:28 pm, J.M. Garg < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any keys? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> J. M. Garg >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, 13 Mar, 2023, 18:03 Saroj Kasaju, < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kasajusa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Mon, Mar 13, 2023 at 5:37 PM J.M. Garg < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> How is it different from images at >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://efloraofindia.com/2017/03/03/smilax-lanceifolia/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ? >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, 12 Mar 2023 at 14:08, Saroj Kasaju < >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kasajusa...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dear Members, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Location: Suryavinayak, Bhaktapur, Nepal >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Date: 02 March 2023 >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Elevation: 1364 m. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Habit : Wild >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thank you. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Saroj Kasaju >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> With regards, >>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> With regards, >>> J.M.Garg >>> >> > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "eFloraofIndia" group. 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