yes sir I saw that and then in the main text in the pdf, it writes Tinospora malabarica (Lamarck) J. D. Hooker & Thomson as synonym of Tinospora sinensis (Loureiro) Merrill !!! Confusing... Pankaj
On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:13 AM, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> wrote: > Pankaj ji > But did you notice two things > 1. It does not list T. cordifolia from Pakistan > 2. Under synonyms of T. malabarica it lists both Miers; Hook.f. & T. > > > -- > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 8:28 AM, Pankaj Kumar <sahanipan...@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> Respected Gurcharan Sir >> >> There are two cordifolias >> >> 1. Tinospora cordifolia (Willd.) Hook.f. & Thomson -- Fl. Indica 1: 184 >> (1855). >> [Menispermum cordifolium Willd. Sp. Pl., ed. 4 [Willdenow] 4(2): >> 826. (1806)] >> >> AND >> >> 2. Tinospora cordifolia Miers -- Ann. Mag. Nat. Hist. ser. 2, 7(37): 38. >> (1851). >> >> 1. is a valid name and eflora of Pakistan talks about about Tinospora >> cordifolia Miers. as synonym of T. malabarica, which is actually now >> T. sinensis. >> >> >> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 10:34 AM, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > Then I won't blame eFlora of Pakistan much. It considers (although >> > wrongly) >> > all T. cordifolia (atleast of N W India and Pakistan) as T. malabarica >> > Miers >> > (now correctly T. sinensis) >> > >> > http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=133039 >> > -- >> > Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> > Retired Associate Professor >> > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >> > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >> > >> > On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 7:28 AM, Dr Pankaj Kumar >> > <sahanipan...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> Dear Vijay. I think I have seen lenticels in both as far as I can >> >> remember. We had both in oru campus, back at home in WII !! The leaf >> >> surface and petiole is puberulent in sinensis. That cant be seen in >> >> such low resolution pics. >> >> I am not saying that this pic is not cordifolia. I am just sayingthat >> >> its not easy to make out from this pic. >> >> Pankaj >> >> >> >> >> >> On Oct 14, 3:40 am, Vijayasankar <vijay.botan...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > The pictures look very much like T. cordifolia. Stems and leaves of >> >> > T. >> >> > sinensis can't be mistaken owing to the prominent lenticells and >> >> > indumentum. >> >> > >> >> > Regards >> >> > >> >> > Vijayasankar Raman >> >> > National Center for Natural Products Research >> >> > University of Mississippi >> >> > >> >> > On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 1:31 AM, Pankaj Kumar >> >> > <sahanipan...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > Dear Gibs >> >> > > Thanks for correction. I was not attentive I think. >> >> > > Yes. T. sinensis is hairy and not cordifolia ... >> >> > > Sorry... >> >> > > Pankaj >> >> > >> >> > > On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Giby Kuriakose >> >> > > <giby.kuriak...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > > > Dear Pankaj, >> >> > > > Information in your 2 mails in this thread is contradictory! >> >> > > > In the first mail you said "do you find hairs on the surface !!! >> >> > > > If >> >> > > > yes >> >> > > then >> >> > > > it should be sinensis....." and then later " T. sinensis leaves >> >> > > > are >> >> > > > no >> >> > > hairy >> >> > > > that it can be seen in the particular pic I assume...." >> >> > >> >> > > > Regards, >> >> > > > Giby >> >> > >> >> > > > Yes this should be Tinospora but cordifolia or sinensis, it needs >> >> > > > to >> >> > > > be confirmed. >> >> > > > Lick the leaves, do you find hairs on the surface !!! >> >> > > > If yes then it should be sinensis otherwise cordifolia. >> >> > > > Pankaj >> >> > >> >> > > > On 11 October 2011 11:00, Pankaj Kumar <sahanipan...@gmail.com> >> >> > > > wrote: >> >> > >> >> > > >> T. sinensis leaves are no hairy that it can be seen in the >> >> > > >> particular >> >> > > >> pic I assume. I may be wrong though. >> >> > > >> Regards >> >> > > >> Pankaj >> >> > >> >> > > >> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 1:14 PM, H S <hemsan...@gmail.com> >> >> > > >> wrote: >> >> > > >> > yes its Tinospora cordifolia other name T. glabra, some >> >> > > >> > consider >> >> > > >> > it >> >> > > >> > synonym.. Tinospora sinensis has hairy leaves and bigger >> >> > > >> > compare >> >> > > >> > to >> >> > > this >> >> > > >> > one.. >> >> > > >> > regards, >> >> > >> >> > > >> > On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 5:59 AM, Dr Pankaj Kumar >> >> > > >> > <sahanipan...@gmail.com> >> >> > > >> > wrote: >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> Yes this should be Tinospora but cordifolia or sinensis, it >> >> > > >> >> needs to >> >> > > >> >> be confirmed. >> >> > > >> >> Lick the leaves, do you find hairs on the surface !!! >> >> > > >> >> If yes then it should be sinensis otherwise cordifolia. >> >> > > >> >> Pankaj >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> On Oct 11, 8:17 am, Balkar Singh <balkara...@gmail.com> >> >> > > >> >> wrote: >> >> > > >> >> > Tinospora cordifolia commonly called as Giloy Be >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 10:37 PM, Dev Kumar >> >> > > >> >> > <dev.kumar.vasude...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > DKV 10102011 >> >> > > >> >> > > Mhow, Dist Indore, MP >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > Request for species id. >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > Given by a family friend who said its name in Hindi is >> >> > > >> >> > > "neemglo" >> >> > > >> >> > > and >> >> > > >> >> > > that it must be grown at the base of a neem tree and it >> >> > > >> >> > > is a >> >> > > >> >> > > natural >> >> > > >> >> > > hypoglycemic - used by diabetics to lower blood sugar. >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > > Regards >> >> > > >> >> > > Dev >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > -- >> >> > > >> >> > Regards >> >> > >> >> > > >> >> > Dr Balkar Singh >> >> > > >> >> > Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology >> >> > > >> >> > Arya P G College, Panipat >> >> > > >> >> > Haryana-132103 >> >> > > >> >> > 09416262964 >> >> > >> >> > > >> > -- >> >> > > >> > - H.S. >> >> > > >> > A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a >> >> > > >> > mere >> >> > > heart >> >> > > >> > of >> >> > > >> > stone >> >> > >> >> > > >> -- >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> >> >> > > >> ********************************************************************** >> >> > > >> "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" >> >> > >> >> > > >> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) >> >> > > >> Conservation Officer >> >> > >> >> > > >> Office: >> >> > > >> Flora Conservation Department >> >> > > >> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >> >> > > >> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >> >> > >> >> > > >> Residence: >> >> > > >> 36B, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun >> >> > > >> Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >> >> > >> >> > > >> email: pku...@kbfg.org >> >> > > >> sahanipan...@gmail.com >> >> > > >> pankajsah...@rediffmail.com >> >> > > >> Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:30pm) >> >> > > >> +852 9436 6251; +852 5431 6094 (mobile) >> >> > >> >> > > > -- >> >> > > > GIBY KURIAKOSE PhD >> >> > > > Ashoka Trust for Research in Ecology and the Environment (ATREE), >> >> > > > Royal Enclave, >> >> > > > Jakkur Post, Srirampura >> >> > > > Bangalore- 560064 >> >> > > > India >> >> > > > Phone - +91 9448714856 (Mobile) >> >> > > > visit my pictures @http://www.flickr.com/photos/giby >> >> > >> >> > > -- >> >> > > >> >> > > ********************************************************************** >> >> > > "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" >> >> > >> >> > > Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) >> >> > > Conservation Officer >> >> > >> >> > > Office: >> >> > > Flora Conservation Department >> >> > > Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >> >> > > Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >> >> > >> >> > > Residence: >> >> > > 36B, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun >> >> > > Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >> >> > >> >> > > email: pku...@kbfg.org >> >> > > sahanipan...@gmail.com >> >> > > pankajsah...@rediffmail.com >> >> > > Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:30pm) >> >> > > +852 9436 6251; +852 5431 6094 (mobile) >> > >> > >> > -- >> > Dr. Gurcharan Singh >> > Retired Associate Professor >> > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >> > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >> > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >> > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >> > >> > >> >> >> >> -- >> ********************************************************************** >> "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" >> >> >> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) >> Conservation Officer >> >> Office: >> Flora Conservation Department >> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation >> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >> >> Residence: >> 36B, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun >> Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. >> >> email: pku...@kbfg.org >> sahanipan...@gmail.com >> pankajsah...@rediffmail.com >> Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:30pm) >> +852 9436 6251; +852 5431 6094 (mobile) > > > > -- ********************************************************************** "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) Conservation Officer Office: Flora Conservation Department Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. Residence: 36B, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. email: pku...@kbfg.org sahanipan...@gmail.com pankajsah...@rediffmail.com Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:30pm) +852 9436 6251; +852 5431 6094 (mobile)
