Dear Pankaj, I agree with you. But (back at home !!) I had both herbarium and live plants of these two species. But T.s. was a male one. The stems of this had tomentose hairs and lenticells which are more prominent and denser than that of T. c. I think, now the ball is in Dev Kumar ji's court! :)
Regards Vijayasankar Raman National Center for Natural Products Research University of Mississippi On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 8:58 PM, Dr Pankaj Kumar <sahanipan...@gmail.com>wrote: > Dear Vijay. I think I have seen lenticels in both as far as I can > remember. We had both in oru campus, back at home in WII !! The leaf > surface and petiole is puberulent in sinensis. That cant be seen in > such low resolution pics. > I am not saying that this pic is not cordifolia. I am just sayingthat > its not easy to make out from this pic. > Pankaj > > > On Oct 14, 3:40 am, Vijayasankar <vijay.botan...@gmail.com> wrote: > > The pictures look very much like T. cordifolia. Stems and leaves of T. > > sinensis can't be mistaken owing to the prominent lenticells and > indumentum. > > > > Regards > > > > Vijayasankar Raman > > National Center for Natural Products Research > > University of Mississippi > > > > On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 1:31 AM, Pankaj Kumar <sahanipan...@gmail.com > >wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Gibs > > > Thanks for correction. I was not attentive I think. > > > Yes. T. sinensis is hairy and not cordifolia ... > > > Sorry... > > > Pankaj > > > > > On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 2:27 PM, Giby Kuriakose > > > <giby.kuriak...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Dear Pankaj, > > > > Information in your 2 mails in this thread is contradictory! > > > > In the first mail you said "do you find hairs on the surface !!! If > yes > > > then > > > > it should be sinensis....." and then later " T. sinensis leaves are > no > > > hairy > > > > that it can be seen in the particular pic I assume...." > > > > > > Regards, > > > > Giby > > > > > > Yes this should be Tinospora but cordifolia or sinensis, it needs to > > > > be confirmed. > > > > Lick the leaves, do you find hairs on the surface !!! > > > > If yes then it should be sinensis otherwise cordifolia. > > > > Pankaj > > > > > > On 11 October 2011 11:00, Pankaj Kumar <sahanipan...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > >> T. sinensis leaves are no hairy that it can be seen in the > particular > > > >> pic I assume. I may be wrong though. > > > >> Regards > > > >> Pankaj > > > > > >> On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 1:14 PM, H S <hemsan...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> > yes its Tinospora cordifolia other name T. glabra, some consider > it > > > >> > synonym.. Tinospora sinensis has hairy leaves and bigger compare > to > > > this > > > >> > one.. > > > >> > regards, > > > > > >> > On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 5:59 AM, Dr Pankaj Kumar > > > >> > <sahanipan...@gmail.com> > > > >> > wrote: > > > > > >> >> Yes this should be Tinospora but cordifolia or sinensis, it needs > to > > > >> >> be confirmed. > > > >> >> Lick the leaves, do you find hairs on the surface !!! > > > >> >> If yes then it should be sinensis otherwise cordifolia. > > > >> >> Pankaj > > > > > >> >> On Oct 11, 8:17 am, Balkar Singh <balkara...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > >> >> > Tinospora cordifolia commonly called as Giloy Be > > > > > >> >> > On Mon, Oct 10, 2011 at 10:37 PM, Dev Kumar > > > >> >> > <dev.kumar.vasude...@gmail.com>wrote: > > > > > >> >> > > DKV 10102011 > > > >> >> > > Mhow, Dist Indore, MP > > > > > >> >> > > Request for species id. > > > > > >> >> > > Given by a family friend who said its name in Hindi is > "neemglo" > > > >> >> > > and > > > >> >> > > that it must be grown at the base of a neem tree and it is a > > > >> >> > > natural > > > >> >> > > hypoglycemic - used by diabetics to lower blood sugar. > > > > > >> >> > > Regards > > > >> >> > > Dev > > > > > >> >> > -- > > > >> >> > Regards > > > > > >> >> > Dr Balkar Singh > > > >> >> > Head, Deptt. of Botany and Biotechnology > > > >> >> > Arya P G College, Panipat > > > >> >> > Haryana-132103 > > > >> >> > 09416262964 > > > > > >> > -- > > > >> > - H.S. > > > >> > A scientific man ought to have no wishes, no affections, - a mere > > > heart > > > >> > of > > > >> > stone > > > > > >> -- > > > >> > ********************************************************************** > > > >> "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" > > > > > >> Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) > > > >> Conservation Officer > > > > > >> Office: > > > >> Flora Conservation Department > > > >> Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation > > > >> Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. > > > > > >> Residence: > > > >> 36B, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun > > > >> Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. > > > > > >> email: pku...@kbfg.org > > > >> sahanipan...@gmail.com > > > >> pankajsah...@rediffmail.com > > > >> Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:30pm) > > > >> +852 9436 6251; +852 5431 6094 (mobile) > > > > > > -- > > > > GIBY KURIAKOSE PhD > > > > Ashoka Trust for Research in Ecology and the Environment (ATREE), > > > > Royal Enclave, > > > > Jakkur Post, Srirampura > > > > Bangalore- 560064 > > > > India > > > > Phone - +91 9448714856 (Mobile) > > > > visit my pictures @http://www.flickr.com/photos/giby > > > > > -- > > > ********************************************************************** > > > "Taxonomists getting Extinct and Species Data Deficient !!" > > > > > Pankaj Kumar Ph.D. (Orchidaceae) > > > Conservation Officer > > > > > Office: > > > Flora Conservation Department > > > Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation > > > Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. > > > > > Residence: > > > 36B, Ng Tung Chai, Lam Tseun > > > Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. > > > > > email: pku...@kbfg.org > > > sahanipan...@gmail.com > > > pankajsah...@rediffmail.com > > > Phone: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:30pm) > > > +852 9436 6251; +852 5431 6094 (mobile) >