Dear All, I have a matured tree standing in my Garden. I will photograph these leaves tomorrow and post. any suggestions. Regards. satyendra
On 21 April 2012 19:25, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks a lot Pankaj ji > I hope members would concentrate to solve puzzle of types based on glands > in India. It would be real job because internet is full of inconsistent > information. > > > -- > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > > On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 7:19 PM, Pankaj Oudhia <pankajoud...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> Superb Research Gurcharan ji. Thanks. >> >> The Traditional Healers of India divide Terminalia chebula fruits in over >> 30 different types based on type of fruit including Abhya, Chetki etc. >> >> Similarly on the basis of fruit types Bahera i.e. Terminalia bellirica is >> also having tens of types. These types are not mentioned in Taxonomic >> literature, so far. >> >> regards >> >> Pankaj Oudhia >> >> >> On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 7:12 PM, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> Satish ji >>> Your note above prompted me to check some literature, and first thing I >>> discovered what you wrote. In Flora of China it is clearly written and >>> illustrated that unlike other species whether glands are generally present >>> at the tip of petiole (or say base of leaf blade) in T. bellirica the two >>> glands are present at about the middle of petiole. >>> >>> http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=94420&flora_id=2 >>> >>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200014745 >>> >>> Now coming to the presence of the species in India, The Flora of British >>> India differentiates two varieties (rather three of which we ignore one >>> right now). >>> >>> var: typica (syn: T. eglandulosa) No glands at the apex of petiole >>> var. belerica, two glands at apex of the petiole beneath the leaf >>> >>> unfortunately no mention is made about the places of distribution of two >>> varieties. >>> >>> Faced with this confusion I rushed to the Herbal Garden in Punjabi Bagh >>> (6 km away) and a garden in our area whether this tree grows, and found >>> that there is no trace of any glands any where on the petiole in our area. >>> >>> We should as such be looking at three variants (whether they have any >>> taxonomic status or not be ignored) >>> >>> 1. The common Indian form with no glands at all >>> 2. The form with two glands at the tip of petiole as mentioned in FBI >>> 3. The form with two glands in the middle of petiole as mentioned in >>> Flora of China. It would be interesting to know if this form grows in India >>> also. >>> >>> I also read an old article from Transanctions of Linnaean Society Vol. >>> 17, 1837, a commentary by Hamilton, in which two forms of Bahara (perhaps >>> meaning Baheda) (T. bellirica) are recognised: Greater bahara or Bahara >>> major with larger fruits and Smaller bahara or Bahara minor with smaller >>> fruits, described from Duriapur and Domdoho, respectively (wonder what are >>> these places). >>> >>> >>> http://books.google.co.in/books?id=KBwhAQAAMAAJ&pg=PA159&lpg=PA159&dq=Glands+in+Terminalia+bellirica&source=bl&ots=NFhrgPXI1H&sig=BGIsCB4D-xBKR714AC75LG4cBIg&hl=en&sa=X&ei=1oyST-vCEI3irAeKoL3rBA&sqi=2&ved=0CEwQ6AEwBQ#v=onepage&q=Glands%20in%20Terminalia%20bellirica&f=false >>> >>> Perhaps some one can throw some more light on this important medicinal >>> plant of India. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>> Retired Associate Professor >>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Apr 21, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Satish Phadke <drsmpha...@gmail.com>wrote: >>> >>>> Yesterday I happen to attend a slideshow/presentation where a >>>> botanist(Not active on Net) showed a series of Terminalia leaves from >>>> different species. She had tried to document the differences and >>>> characteristics of glands indifferent individual species. What I learnt was >>>> T. bellerica often has glands which are not at the base of the leaves but >>>> in the petiole itself which appears slightly swollen midway in its length. >>>> It stimulated my curiosity which made me write yesterday's request to >>>> Surajit.This is something different than what Neil ji's observations. When >>>> I checked elsewhere in whatever data available to me what I got is No >>>> glands in T. bellerica. I will check with her again and if possible will >>>> try to collect those pictures for opinion. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:21 PM, Vijayasankar Raman (Google Docs) < >>>> vijay.botan...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> [image: Document] I've shared Terminalia bellirica page from >>>>> FPB<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dpgVclesA4TroBoOy1jaCFx6vq3Y9C5xAfAIRx_gEBA/edit> >>>>> Click to open: >>>>> >>>>> - Terminalia bellirica page from >>>>> FPB<https://docs.google.com/document/d/1dpgVclesA4TroBoOy1jaCFx6vq3Y9C5xAfAIRx_gEBA/edit> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Terminalia belli(e)rica page from Cooke’s Flora of Presidency of >>>>> Bombay_Vol. 1 >>>>> >>>>> (line 8 in the description para). >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Google Docs makes it easy to create, store and share online documents, >>>>> spreadsheets and presentations. >>>>> [image: Logo for Google Docs] <https://docs.google.com> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Dr Satish Phadke >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > > -- > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > -- Satyendra K.Tiwari. 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