Sorry your first two assumptions are wrong, third is correct. When I am talking about rules then I mean according to ICBN and hence my technical suggestions were based on ICBN.
Pankaj On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 7:09 AM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> wrote: > Unfortunately, Your three assumptions are totally wrong. > Pankaj > > > > > > On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 10:33 PM, surajit koley > <[email protected]> wrote: >> Dear Dr Pankaj Sir, >> >> "If you are writing by hand, then only you can underline to highlight the >> LATIN words." = "underline" is STRICTLY PROHIBITED in printed and cyber >> world. >> >> "There is no rule which says that you have to underline it. Linne never >> underlined names it in his book!! There is no rule NOW which says that you >> must write the latin names in italics either" = ALLOWS me to go WITHOUT >> ITALICS in printed and cyber world. >> >> If there is no such rule nothing can prohibit use of UNDERLINE+ITALIC+BOLD = >> All of the above allows me to go for all, UNDERLINE+ITALIC+BOLD, when i am >> not handwriting or typing for a journal. >> >> And we are talking of "rules" and "technical suggestion", NOT custom & >> tradition. Aren't we? >> >> Regards, >> >> surajit >> >> >> >> On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 10:15 AM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> >> wrote: >>> >>> I couldn't understand what you mean to say !! Sorry for that.... >>> There is a difference between STRICTLY PROHIBITED and NO RULE THAT WHICH >>> SAYS YOU HAVE TO. Strictly prohibited is when you are not allowed to, >>> whereas no rule means although there is no rule, still you can choose your >>> own way, i.e., you are not prohibited. >>> My point 2 says: There is no rule now which says that you have to write >>> strictly in italics. It means you can write it in anyway, but following the >>> English tradition, any word which is not of english origin should be written >>> in italics. >>> UNDERLINE+ITALIC+BOLD : these are actually three different ways of >>> highlighting, so either one of it is ok, unless you want to denote something >>> using a particular function. For example, in my PhD thesis I didnt want to >>> use ACCEPTED NAME and SYNONYM in the text for my plants. Instead I used a >>> legend that said, Bold italics are accepted names and normal italics are >>> synonyms. >>> But as I said, if you are publishing in a journal then you should follow >>> the format of journal and it varies across different journals. >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 9:37 AM, surajit koley >>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>> Good morning Dr Pankaj Sir >>>> >>>> Relating to Latin names in an English document - >>>> >>>> "There is no rule which says that you have to underline it." >>>> "There is no rule NOW which says that you must write the latin names in >>>> italics either," >>>> "If you are writing by hand, then only you can underline to highlight the >>>> LATIN words." >>>> "If you are typewriting or writing on computers then there is no need to >>>> underline, but just Italics or italics + bold will do." >>>> >>>> Point no.3 of the above tells me that "underline" is STRICTLY PROHIBITED >>>> in printed and cyber world. >>>> Point no.2 of the above ALLOWS me to go WITHOUT ITALICS in printed and >>>> cyber world. >>>> All of the above allows me to go for all, UNDERLINE+ITALIC+BOLD, when i >>>> am not handwriting or typing for a journal. >>>> >>>> I hope i have learnt my lesson well. >>>> >>>> I wonder what is the format when Latin names are written in Latin >>>> document. There is one though! >>>> >>>> Thank you. >>>> >>>> Regards, >>>> >>>> surajit >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 4:20 AM, Pankaj Kumar <[email protected]> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Nidhan sir is right. >>>>> Mr Surajit, >>>>> If you are writing by hand, then only you can underline to highlight the >>>>> LATIN words. >>>>> If you are typewriting or writing on computers then there is no need to >>>>> underline, but just Italics or italics + bold will do. But this depends on >>>>> what you are writing for. If you are writing for a journal then look out >>>>> for >>>>> the format of the journal. If you are writing your own book then you can >>>>> decide what to follow. >>>>> Upper case is used for the first alphabet of the genus and first >>>>> alphabets of the Author Abbreviations. >>>>> Pankaj >>>>> . >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 12:59 AM, surajit koley >>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Sir, >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you for explaining. As i l read this thread for one more time i >>>>>> learn - >>>>>> >>>>>> "Any word which is actually not of English origin is written in >>>>>> italics." >>>>>> "There is no rule which says that you have to underline it." >>>>>> "There is no rule NOW which says that you must write the latin names in >>>>>> italics either, but we do so, just to follow the English writing >>>>>> tradition >>>>>> and also the format of the journal you will want to publish." >>>>>> "Such rule were there earlier but I think from St. Louis code onwards >>>>>> this rule was lifted off." >>>>>> "In common practice, which we follow to distinguish the technical names >>>>>> appearing in the text, we give a break in underline for each taxon." >>>>>> >>>>>> And at the beginning - "Just wanted to give one small technical >>>>>> suggestion." >>>>>> >>>>>> So, we are talking about many things at a time, "technical suggestion". >>>>>> "very basic fundamentals", "format of the journal", "common practice" and >>>>>> one, the most important word "rule". >>>>>> >>>>>> So, i learn that any format, as typed below, to distinguish it from the >>>>>> main document, will do for scientific names, in written document or in >>>>>> typed >>>>>> ones or in cyber world - >>>>>> >>>>>> Amaranthus tricolor L. >>>>>> Amaranthus tricolor L. >>>>>> Amaranthus tricolor L. >>>>>> Amaranthus tricolor L. >>>>>> Amaranthus tricolor L. >>>>>> Amaranthus tricolor L. >>>>>> >>>>>> Please tell me about use of "upper case" and "lower case". >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> surajit >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 9:34 PM, Nidhan Singh >>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Surajit Ji, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In common practice, which we follow to distinguish the >>>>>>> technical names appearing in the text, we give a break in underline for >>>>>>> each >>>>>>> taxon. Genus, species, subspecies, variety name etc. all are to be >>>>>>> underlined differently, and as Pankaj Ji have said about beginning of >>>>>>> this >>>>>>> practice, this is simply to highlight the usage of other language >>>>>>> words, in >>>>>>> a running language. When writing with hand, usually no other easy >>>>>>> option is >>>>>>> available..so this became a common practice...I hope I have not >>>>>>> confused the >>>>>>> things.. >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dr. Nidhan Singh >>>>>>> Assistant Professor >>>>>>> Department of Botany >>>>>>> I.B. 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