I'm sure many universities in the US offer an undergraduate major in Sanskrit, 
if that is also what is meant by an undergrad BA. Here at the University of 
Virginia we have an undergraduate major in South Asian Languages and 
Literatures in which the student may choose Sanskrit as the language. In my 
time here, though, we have had only a handful of such students.

Bob Hueckstedt
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Subject: [INDOLOGY] French and Sanskrit: was Where can you do a BA in Sanskrit?

Dear Jan,

Thank you for this informative post. One question. You wrote that French was: 
"the language which was the first occidental language of the scientific study 
of Sanskrit"

Could you please give me more information on this? I was recently briefly 
covering the history of Sanskrit in the West and, while I was aware that France 
was one of the major players, I was not aware that it was the "first" in this 
sense.

I am not doubting you, since you no doubt know more about this than me.

Could you please point me to some publications on this? Sadly, though, French 
is not one of my main languages and is only at the tourist level.

Of course, in today's climate in the US, even that is enough that some might 
consider it un-American. I've heard that more than one person said, "If English 
was good enough for Jesus, it's good enough for me."

Best,

Dean


On Friday, June 25, 2021, 7:16:48 PM GMT+5:30, Jan E.M. Houben via INDOLOGY 
<[email protected]> wrote:


Dear Dominik,
Thanks for asking this useful question.
In addition to Isabelle's earlier contribution to this thread I would like to 
add a few elements: the BA in Sanskrit at the Sorbonne Nouvelle is 
pedagogically one of the best in the world -- the only limitations I would add 
are: in the occidental world, for a Western public, because the strategy to 
teach Sanskrit to Indian / South Asian students can be and should be different 
as most of them, even if their main subjects are IT, engineering etc., are 
already so much familiar with Sanskrit and Sanskritic vocabulary which often 
helps but may frequently also put the student on a wrong or deceptive track.
Hence during my stay at IIT-Bhubaneswar as visiting professor in 2019 
(teaching, among other things, an introductory course on Sanskrit, German and 
comparative linguistics specially for IIT-students with an Indian linguistic 
background), I planned and organized a seminar on "Functional and Communicative 
Sanskrit" on 21 December 2019 with contributions by Godabarish Mishra, Amba 
Kulkarni, Siniruddha Dash and others. My plan to help to develop this further, 
in 2020, to an introductory course on Sanskrit and comparative linguistics 
specially for these students could not be realized due to the Corona crisis.
As for the BA in Sanskrit at the Sorbonne Nouvelle, another plus is that it is 
in French, so that the student at the same time can develop familiarity with 
the language which was the first occidental language of the scientific study of 
Sanskrit, extensively used also by the earlier generation of German Sanskrit 
scholars such as the brothers von Schlegel and Franz Bopp.
As for the Sorbonne Nouvelle, the manual used, or one of the major manuals 
used, is Le Sanskrit by Nalini Balbir (Paris, 2013) of which an English version 
is in preparation. The specialty of Le Sanskrit is that it presents, for the 
first time, the language not only in its grammatical structure but also as a 
living means of expression and communication, entirely on the basis of examples 
attested in Sanskrit literature (fiction, fables, dramas) -- hence it is 
different both from classical occidental introductions to Sanskrit and from 
modern introductions to "spoken Sanskrit". It is a worthy contribution to the 
series "Assimil" in which Le Sanskrit is published, as it follows throughout 
the "assimilation" method (nipāna-rīti) of language learning.
When it appeared I composed a brief verse:

निपानरीतिमार्गेण  संस्कृताध्यापनार्थकम् ।

चकार नलिनी शास्त्रम्  अतोऽध्येता प्रसिध्यति ॥

nipānarītimārgeṇa   saṁskṛtādhyāpanārthakam |

cakāra Nalinī śāstram   ato’dhyetā prasidhyati ||
Jan Houben

N.B. Specifically to practice and read Sanskrit there is a yearly "stage de 
Sanskrit" organized by Sylvain Brocquet at the Université de Provence et 
Aix-en-Provence (https://cpaf.cnrs.fr/spip.php?article423&lang=fr); another 
"stage de Sanskrit" is expected soon at the new institute ILARA, here in Paris.


On Fri, 25 Jun 2021 at 08:46, Isabelle Ratie via INDOLOGY 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Dear Dominik,
That our BA in Sanskrit includes a few courses without Sanskrit requirement 
does not disqualify our BA as one in Sanskrit! It definitely focuses on the 
Sanskrit language, as is specified on the first page to which I sent a link:
son objet principal est le sanskrit et ses littératures, dont elle met en 
évi­dence la richesse: l’apprentissage du sanskrit s’y fait avant tout par la 
lecture et la traduction in­tensives de textes appartenant à des genres très 
différents (contes, épopée, poésie savante, litté­ra­ture historiographique, 
traités philosophiques, traités d’esthétique, etc.).
With all best wishes,
Isabelle

Le ven. 25 juin 2021 à 04:44, Dominik Wujastyk 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> a écrit :
What about

l’histoire de la société, des philosophies et des religions indiennes, ou 
encore l’histoire de la con­nais­sance de l’Inde.

Those would not be courses involving reading Sanskrit as such, would they?  
They would be in French, about India?

Similarly at UT Austin, it looks like students have to take lots of courses 
called,

Asian Studies related to South Asia

Again, that wouldn't be actual reading of Sanskrit texts, would it?  And there 
appear to be a lot of courses under "Core" that are not Sanskrit. (US History; 
Social and Behavioural Science, etc.).  Presumably students take a few of 
these?  So it's a general humanities degree with a high Sanskrit content.  
Would that be right, or am I misunderstanding?

I was thinking about a degree that focussed on Sanskrit language and 
literature, not a course where Sanskrit was a component (even a large 
component).  I'm thinking of the Oxford BA, or the BA at SOAS, when it existed, 
in the days when it was taught by Mr J. E. B. Gray with his legendary 
cyclostyled, typewritten, four-year course.  Or the courses taught at German 
universities in the days of the old MA system.

Best,
Dominik


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