Thanks a lot for the info Shelley.

I'll be leaving soon (always soon..), and I was the only one could talk to
people in Indoz-net, all the info I got from you guys will be forwarded to
friends who are still studying in OZ, and they are the one will do s'thing.
 Some are in perth, m'bourne etc., so by knowing the info all over the OZ,
I'll then pass it to them.
I do have contact with rev. J. Barr, etc, and I know there  are a lot of
people who could help, but do not know exactly their name/institute.  But
this does not mean that we try to rip you guys of.  It is purely for tooth
paste, pads, emergency kits etc.  Friends will then contact you guys, not
me, because my visa expire Feb 2000, and will be leaving soon for Bogor.  

Of course we did a lot, but does not feel that we should show up in this
mailing-list that we had done a lot.  For what reason?  Show up?  Just to
let people know what we are doing?  I do not quite like it.  There was one
fund raising in Bondi Junction couple of months ago, and was good.     

Very few Ambonese live in OZ, and are in different state, so it is quite
hard, too.  Most of us are student, very tight timetable and deadline.  So
if I got info about Darwin, I'll then ask friends up there to explore that,
and so on
Again thank you very much for your help.  God bless you.
cheers,
betty pentury

At 10:06 PM 11/15/99 +1100, you wrote:
>Dear Betty
>Actually I think your response to Steve's email was quite appropriate!
>Re the OzIndo Project- I was very happy to welcome the group in Byron Bay
>and to get to know them a little bit - I also organised a fund raiser to
>raise money for their food relief program in Indonesia and East Timor. It is
>true that the media has been focussing on the East Timor side of things -
>pathetic isn't it - Jan Lingard, one member of OzIndo has been collecting
>incidences of media misrepresentation and will publish an article about it
>when they get back home- maybe in Inside Indonesia.
>Anyway - they are raising money for Indonesia and I would suggect that you
>email OzIndo Project directly to suggest a food relief program in Ambon -
>[EMAIL PROTECTED] . Also - as Darwin is the sister city of Ambon ( and
>I have heard that they were concerned about wanting to provide support in
>some way ) I would suggest that you contact Darwin City Council as they may
>be interested in hearing from people regarding proposals for aid for Ambon.
>
>While I don't agree with the tone of Steve's letter, he does have a point -
>Fiona Collins decided to ride around Australia to raise $50,000 for
>Indonesia with support people Jan and Timoer. 3 people raised a lot of money
>and gave up work and normal life for 10 months. While we can't all do that -
>if you are really wanting to raise money for Ambon - you can do it! Just
>start small and work together with a charitable organisation like OzIndo or
>Freedom From Hunger - even just sending out emails to ask for donations
>might help, or holding fundraising events in your local community - like
>Ambon Night .  This also helps to raise awareness and connect people to work
>together for an important cause.
>
>Good Luck and best wishes-
>Judy
>AIAA
>I
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Drewsta Merefield <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: Multiple recipients of list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Date: Saturday, 13 November 1999 21:56
>Subject: Re: the real meaning of ENCOURAGING
>
>
>>dear Betty,
>>Don't be so touchy, he probably asked that as an innocent question.
>>So how do you help the people of Ambon? (just a question, bukam kecam)
>>
>>Betty Pentury wrote:
>>
>>> At 05:58 PM 11/12/99 +1100, you wrote:
>>> >Out of my curiousity:
>>> >
>>> >What can you do for them ? Are you just going to sit back and log on the
>>> >internet reading emails and encouraging other to help Ambonese ?
>>> >
>>> >Cheers,
>>> >Steve.
>>>
>>> Please read my mail below carefully Steve.
>>> I think you've got me wrong.
>>> I did not encourage anybody to my knowledge,  just asked pak David knows
>>> s'thing.
>>> more over log on to the net is okay , isn't it? is there anything wrong
>>> with it compare to doing nothing at all for ambon?
>>> this is what our lovely indoz-net is all about, communicate, the rest
>will
>>> be every member's bussiness.
>>> why do us join indoz-net/indonesian student mailing-list anyway? to
>>> communicate with indonesian isn't it?  if you do not agree with the way
>we
>>> are, just unsubscribe.
>>>
>>> >>From: Betty Pentury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> >>Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>> >>To: Multiple recipients of list <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>> >>Subject: Re: Fw: flyer
>>> >>Date: Fri, 12 Nov 1999 17:33:17 +1100 (EST)
>>> >>
>>> >>I'm from Ambon mas DG.  A lot of people in Ambon does not have food,
>>> >>clothes, and are up in the mountains, too.  Their house had been
>burned,
>>> >>they lost the member of the family, too.  if you happen to know people
>that
>>> >>could help Ambonese, please let me know, too.
>>> >>salam,
>>> >>betty pentury
>>> >>
>>> >>At 12:21 PM 11/12/99 +1100, you wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >It's sad, but not surprising, that all the media
>>> >> >publicity she gets mentions only that she is raising
>>> >> >money for East Timor, and no one ever hears that she
>>> >> >actually started out collecting for Indonesia.
>>> >> >
>>> >> >Salam,
>>> >> >DavidG
>>> >> >
>>> >> >--- Judith Shelley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Date: Thursday, 11 November 1999 23:49
>>> >> >> Subject: flyer
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> >Fiona Collins of the OzIndo Project will cycle into
>>> >> >> Sydney arriving with
>>> >> >> >her support team on 21st November  marking the
>>> >> >> completion of their  epic
>>> >> >> >journey of 16 000  kilometres cycling around
>>> >> >> Australia. This incredible
>>> >> >> >mission was undertaken to raise money for a
>>> >> >> desperately needed
>>> >> >> >food-subsidisation program throughout Indonesia in
>>> >> >> the face of its
>>> >> >> >crippling economic crisis. With the recent events
>>> >> >> in East Timor the
>>> >> >> >team has emphasised that their fund raising will
>>> >> >> also be used to help
>>> >> >> >with rebuilding the shattered territory of East
>>> >> >> Timor.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >Come and welcome home the OzIndo Team !!!
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Sunday 21st November, 10:30 am - 12:30 pm
>>> >> >> >First Fleet park, Circular Quay (next to the Museum
>>> >> >> of Contemporary Art)
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >Entertainment   Mary MacKillop East Timorese
>>> >> >> Singers
>>> >> >> > Arafura (Australian Indonesian female duet on
>>> >> >> kecapi and
>>> >> >> > Batak vocals)
>>> >> >> > Seorkesnyah dangdut - Indonesian popular music
>>> >> >> >    Forest High Concert Band
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >Speakers   Hon. Kathy Sullivan MP,Parliamentary
>>> >> >> Secretary to the
>>> >> >> > Minister for Foreign Affairs
>>> >> >> >    Hon. Laurie Brereton MP, Shadow Minister for
>>> >> >> Foreign
>>> >> >> > Affairs
>>> >> >> >    Rev. John Barr, Head Unity and World Missions,
>>> >> >> Uniting
>>> >> >> > Church
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >> >=====
>>> >> >
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