Uwe Brauer via "Announcements and discussions for GNUS, the GNU Emacs
Usenet newsreader (in English)"  writes:

>> On Sun, Aug 03 2025, Uwe Brauer via "Announcements and discussions for
>> GNUS, the GNU Emacs Usenet newsreader (in English)"
>>  wrote:
>
>
>> For what purpose did you try to use ‘Gnus Cloud’?
>
> For trying to recover the dormant mark, since this mark is not really
> saved in the .newsrc file.
>
> I meanwhile found out that the setup is much easier that I thought, and
> I manged to use download and upload cloud data, still the dormant marks
> are not really saved.

(My messages to ding@gnuorg still don't seem to be getting there)

To set the record straight:

  Marks will be uploaded only if you have them in the newsrc in the
  first place: which is already not true of your nnimap - so you may
  have to use nnagent (or something else).

(AFAIU) Does that make sense?

James Thomas
writes:

> James Thomas  writes:
>
>> James Cloos  writes:
>>
>>>>>>>> "UB" == Uwe Brauer  writes:
>>>
>>> UB> Is there any way to make dormant marks permanent?
>>> UB> I add dormant marks to the messages of my imap group
>>>
>>> Since the commit Lars pushed which ended newsrc.eld storage of marks for
>>> imap groups, persistance of any mark, including dormant, is solely
>>> dependent on the imap server.
>>>
>>> when that change happened, i was using an imap server which could only
>>> support the fixed set of marks in the imap rfc.
>>>
>>> so tick -- which uses the standard imap keyword Flagged -- would persist.
>>>
>>> dormant, however, is a gnus-specific keyword (gnus-dormant).
>>> so it would not persist.
>>>
>>> i now use dovecot, which supports arbitrary keywords.  so now dormant
>>> persists for me.  as it used to back when all of the marks were stored
>>> in ~/.newrc.eld.
>>>
>>> so your only options are an imap server capable of storing arbitrary
>>> keywords, hack you current imap server to support the gnus-dormant
>>> keyword, or hack gnus to save dormant in .newrc.eld.
>>
>> Have you tried using (info "(gnus) The Gnus Cloud") instead?
>
> (Somehow this message seems to not have made it here)
>
> FWICT, you may use an offline gnus-cloud-method instead of 'I', as well,
> to replicate:
>
>>>  newsrc.eld storage of marks
>
> --

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