Another Linux based system, like WebOS? I can see them jumping on
Chrome
too. The problem remains for HP that they're a Microsoft OEM Partner,
and I doubt they would jeopardize that relationship.
I think HP and Dell will likely be forced by their MS relationships to
abandon Linux OS choices (Android, WebOS, ChromeOS), and instead try
to
shove 7 on these tablets. Every one of these will fail because none of
them have whipped Linux completely into shape, whereas Apple has had
sufficient time to get BSD Unix (Mac OS X, iPhone OS) to be friendly
enough for my 2 year old to use it.
I also believe Apple will have the entire education industry eating
out
of their hands once again if/when they produce a centralized
management
solution for iPad distribution and control, as well as curriculum and
all educational textbooks. This may well be on its' way, and if it
isn't, the guy that builds it will be stinking rich.
-----Original Message-----
From: McKenney, Kurt [mailto:kmcken...@schaller-crest.k12.ia.us]
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 11:17 AM
To: info-tech@aea8.k12.ia.us
Subject: RE: [info-tech] First 18 hours with an IPad...
I would disagree.
First of all, Palm can't compete for a lot of reasons, their OS is one
of them. But they do have manufacturing and distribution channels for
cell phone type devices and quick start technology for use in the
same.
If HP uses an OS other than windows 7 I would expect chrome or another
linux based system.
As for battery life, I'm actually not seeing that as an issue. Apple
solved it by taking an Ipod touch, expanding the size of the device,
and
using a bigger battery.
As for the Current Ipad, it does in fact offer some benefits. Such as
easy access admin rights limited to the machine without a full login,
that is possible under windows, but it is actually more cumbersome. It
does beat he Kindle hands down on everything but battery life.
Now, as for people upset that I am giving an unsolicited review, get
over it. It's tnot he first time that someone has submitted an
unsolicited review, and for that matter it is not the first time the
Ipad has been discussed by the people here. It is not the last time we
will discuss it either I suspect, and the ability to have someone who
has one in hand actually talk about it, give impressions about it, and
answer questions seems like a good idea.
-----Original Message-----
From: info-tech-ow...@aea8.k12.ia.us
[mailto:info-tech-ow...@aea8.k12.ia.us] On Behalf Of Brendan Porter
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 10:55 AM
To: info-tech@aea8.k12.ia.us
Subject: RE: [info-tech] First 18 hours with an IPad...
On top of that, with HP's purchase of Palm, you can bet the WebOS will
be what they put on any mobile devices so they can compete with
Apple's
battery life of 10+ hours. Windows 7 hasn't got a chance.
So if you don't get an iPad with all of the developer and community
support behind it, you can choose Android, WebOS, or poor battery
life.
I am personally excited for the potential. It isn't ready yet, but
that
doesn't mean anything if you've watched the iPhone for the last 3
years.
-----Original Message-----
From: Stanzel, Matt [mailto:mstan...@rdi1.com]
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 10:25 AM
To: info-tech@aea8.k12.ia.us
Subject: RE: [info-tech] First 18 hours with an IPad...
Actually, rumor has it the HP Slate has been kicked to the curb:
http://techcrunch.com/2010/04/29/hewlett-packard-to-kill-windows-7-table
t-project/
So maybe the holdouts can just pick up their iPad instead of waiting
for
the Slate now (me included).
-----Original Message-----
From: Richardson,Tony [mailto:trichard...@humboldt.k12.ia.us]
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 8:33 AM
To: info-tech@aea8.k12.ia.us
Subject: RE: [info-tech] First 18 hours with an IPad...
Wonderful! Good to hear! It will keep some of us from wasting our
districts money on this device.
-----Original Message-----
From: info-tech-ow...@aea8.k12.ia.us
[mailto:info-tech-ow...@aea8.k12.ia.us] On Behalf Of McKenney, Kurt
Sent: Friday, April 30, 2010 7:47 AM
To: info-tech@aea8.k12.ia.us
Subject: [info-tech] First 18 hours with an IPad...
Before we get into this, understand this is an honest no holds barred
review. I will use some rough and possibly insulting language, but if
you read it with an open mind, I think there is some valuable
information, even if it is presented rather vividly. I will likely be
submitting this same review word for word to Amazon and some other
sites.
A few years back, there was a kid who was about 14 who had an IQ of
about 40, but he could listen to a piece of music once and be able to
play it on a piano note for note. This ability really made him kind of
cool, but at the end of the day, you just can't escape that he's still
retarded.
That's the Ipad in a nutshell.
Despite that, I am giving this a solid buy recommendation for schools.
If that makes no sense, read on, and it will.
If I try to compare this to windows 7, and I will, it's kinda
worthless.
The HP Slate is coming out in a couple months, and it will do
everything
that an IPad does, and everything that a windows 7 laptop does, and
costs less, or about the same actually. If you are a computer geek,
like
me, then the slate is a much better product.
But we use the Kindle here a lot. Mainly the kindle is used is
remedial
reading and special-ed because the kindle will read aloud to a
student,
showing them the word being pronounced. Like most programs of this
nature, it's got it's problems, most notably lousy inflection and
pacing. But it's no worse than anything out there, and allows
virtually
any book to be used without additional processing.
The Ipad has a Kindle app, and though I haven't fully tested it, I
have
no reason to think it functions any different.
Now don't get me wrong, I like the kindle, for me. But I'm not buying
for me. Sure, the battery life rocks. Two weeks of a single charge,
that
is just awesome, the ability to buy through the cellular network
without
buying another account? Priceless.
But the weak point on a kindle has always been it's administration.
Basically, if it's on there, the kid has access to it. That includes
google searches for porn.
On the Ipad, if I don't want a kid to surf the internet, they don't.
If
I don't want them to load apps, they don't. You tube? Email? Whatever,
they don't, or should I say they can't. As you all know, keeping kids
out of where they do not belong is always a losing battle, special-
ed is
even more of a challenge than the other students.
That's the cool part as far as actually useful stuff goes. Sure, there
are a lot of educational apps, great, great. The predictive text
feature
is awful from what I've seen of it, I'm working on installing an app
that is supposed to be much better. But really, that's the business
end
of the review.
Now there's the fun stuff, or thing I should say.
Google Maps is included with the Ipad, and for a damn good reason. It
takes total advantage of the multitouch interface. This is beyond
ubercool. This one goes straight to Geek Nirvana. I fell in lust with
Google Maps, and once I showed it to my girlfriend and her daughter,
they proceeded to fight over it for an hour. If you have not tried
this,
there is just no explaining how awesome this feature is. If I could
plug
in GPS, it would probably throw me into a transcendental state where I
spent he next 20 years in a darkened room playing with the user
interface and creating the Church of Jobs.
Or at least until the battery died.
Ok, so here's the summary.
This is a niche market thing. It's great for schools and especially
special-ed. But if you are looking for a productive device, wait for
the
HP Slate.
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