Nadim - you are polluting this ML with your insensitive comments. No one around here wants that kind of counter productive input. What part of Open Source don't you get? All of us here are volunteers of some kind or another, so we don't appreciate being told what to do, and how to act with our freely given time. I suggest you either reassess your approach, or you will quickly find things will get even more frustrating for you, until you finally understand what makes THIS world go round.
Hey - perhaps you should try being "cute and nice" once in a while - you might even like it. Cheers. On Sat, Oct 05, 2002 at 12:24:03AM +0200, nadim wrote: > Hi all I think it's time to set the clocks so we stop arguing about > nothing. > > My general feeling first then some precise answers. > > On Friday 04 October 2002 19:50, Piers Harding wrote: > > So Brian - +1 from me, and keep up the good work. > > On Friday 04 October 2002 20:52, Patrick LeBoutillier wrote: > > So another +1 for Brian. > > Both of you are cute and nice and since you mean well I am _not_ going to > start a stupid war with you or whoever. > > Before I send my first mail to the list I did send a copy to Brian and > Asked him if it was OK to mail this to the list, which he agreed to > without asking me to rephrase it. You can ask him in a private mail. By > the way that's what you should have done with your reactions, send them to > me instead of polluting the ML with you pluses. Whatmore Brian can and has > answered the points I suggested so let's continue working towards > solutions as Brian did. > > I belive The way Inline is run could be better. period. I believe that > Inline should not only depend on the availability, or lust of Brian or > yours or mine. This is a technical question so let's keep at the technial > level. > > > I for one am perfectly happy to "follow" Brians' lead on where and how > > he wants to go forward with Inline. > Good and you count as one, as I do. I have suggestion (that you must > respect). If they go through fine, if not fine. This is just a piece of > software, I am not loosing my cool over it. > > > As for the undertones regarding writing a book, and the commercial > > interest there in - I can vouch for the fact that I'm sure that Brian is > > doing it for the love portion, as there will be bugger all money in it. > Give me a break, I don't care who earns money and how much and when.I have > good pay and if Brian or you can earn money on a book, fine. > > Brian writes that there is a schedule and I can ask ORA. ORA schedule is > for the book not for Inline, except if they are using it to write > programs. What is wrong with that? I don't use undertones. I either don't > care or make myself understood because I am not subtile enougth for > undertones. > > > I'm sure that following some of your suggestions could > > lead to more frequent Inline releases > So let start working on them.Also, my concern has nothing to do with > release frequency (even if small release on short schedule is better), > It's about how things are run. What suggestions did you like and which > ones did you dislike and why? Let's get this stuff running fast. > > > - That would make Brian a manager, having to coordinate > > other people's work, leaving with no less time to do > > some coding of his own. Maybe that's not what he > > wants to do. > ah, finally something to construct upon. The answer to this is: No I don't > ask brian to become manager I ask him to open the devlopment so we have a > more efficient way of getting Inline better. Maybe we could share the > burden in a more efficient way so Brian gets more time for coding or > gardening if he likes to. > > > - Maybe if you went about presenting your ideas in a more > > diplomatic fashion you would get more people interested > > in what you have to say. > pick one of the following: > 1/ I don't have time to baby sit you. I sit in front of my computer not at > united nations. > 2/ Yes, you are right, I could be more diplomatic. > > If anyone has personal griefs against me, we can take it privately to not > bother the rest of the ML. > > Now if you guys could take another round and re-read my mails and point out > what you like and dislike and why (keeping in mind that I mean well) and > keep it at the engineering level, I'll be glad to work things out with you > because I, too, like Inline and want to see it grow. > > I am already quite satisfied, The Wiki idea a very good starting point. > weather Brian did it because of my undiplomatic suggestions or because he > just wanted to do it or because he wanted me to stfu doesn't change a > thing. > > > Nadim. > > > >
