Laszlo (Laca) Peter wrote: > On Mon, 2006-12-11 at 15:40 -0500, Kyle McDonald wrote: > >>>> For some reason the new 'rmvolmgr' has several dependencies, some of >>>> which imply that it may require not just X11, but GNOME. This seems >>>> to me to be a big step backwards. Ideally at least the old >>>> functionality would be available without a windowed desktop, >>>> Hopefully CD's will still automatically mount. >>>> >>>> What's the rational behind this change? Is there somewhere i can go >>>> to read about the design, and find out if a window system is really >>>> going to be required? >>>> >>> Window system is not required. Media will still automatically mount. >>> The new framework depends on D-Bus and GLib, which reside in SUNWdbus* >>> and SUNWgnome-base-libs* packages - neither is a GUI component >>> technically, although resides in the Desktop consolidation. >>> >>> >> Reading up on Dbus I aggree that it's not windows system related. Why >> then is it in SUNWCjdslibrun? >> > > SUNWCjdslibrun contains parts of the JDS consolidation that are not > desktop related but generic. It's quite a small cluster. > > >> I'd only expect to find 'Desktop' thing in there, and I wouldn't install >> that cluster on a server. >> > > On the contrary, you will only find non-desktop things there (: > > >> Just to clarify, will it mount media with SUNWdbus missing (i.e. It's a >> soft dependency?) or SUNWdbus is absoultely required (hard dependency) >> but the rest of the window system is not? >> > > It's a hard dependency. > > Well then maybe it's just a 'naming' problem then. I mean JDS does stand for Java Desktop System right? I guess though if there's no 'java' in it then there's really no reason to stay honest and keep the 'desktop' in it is there? ;)
>> Same question for SUNWgnome-base-libs? I hope the answer is that it's >> only required to enable 'extra' functionality, and that it will work >> without it. I don't want to have to install the GNOME libraries (or the >> things they require) just to make this work on a server. >> > > Again, it's required. dbus links to glib, which is not strictly a > desktop library, but it's produced by the GNOME folks and it's the > lowest level utility library in the GNOME stack. > > This library ought to be moved to some other pkg then If it's going to start to be used all across Solaris, then libglib.so ought to be in the same pkg as libc.so. No? > SUNWgnome-base-libs is also in a tiny cluster, which only includes > SUNWgnome-base-libs and its java bindings. You don't need to install > the rest of the GNOME stack. > > I know I don't need the rest of it. (except the thing it depends on which may not be many in this case, but is very often several other packages in the GNOME world.) I just think you'll have alot of customers saying I don't want GNOME on here at all, and wondering why they're being forced to install even a tiny part. GNOME is widley regarded as part of a windows system, that means it carries the mindset of bulky code, possible network connections, and security risks that come with more network visibility... Some how the RmVolMgr needs to be able to work without appearing saddled with all that. -Kyle > Laca > > >> > >
