Hi all,

> Kyle McDonald wrote:
>   
>> Dave Miner wrote:
>>     
>>> Anyway, that's the history as best I remember.  Sarah is in the early 
>>> stages of investigating what we'll do for automated installs in 
>>> Caiman.  I'm sure she'll take the input into account and we'll of 
>>> course have quite open discussion of the proposal when formulated.  
>>> I'm not at all opposed to leveraging DHCP more fully (it was my 
>>> primary job for 5+ years, after all), but we as always have to be 
>>> pragmatic about where we put Sun's resources.
>>>       
Yep, this is the plan. I will send out a proposal when I am ready and I 
am sure we will have a lot of discussion.
>>>       
>> Thanks Dave!
>>
>> I understand that resources are limited. And if it needed to be 
>> developed fresh, i can see where it'd be not worth the effort. I just 
>> didn't understand why, with the code there and functioning, it would 
>> need to be removed. Precedence is one reason. I don't know how big a job 
>> that would have been.
>>
>> Truely, I'm surprised that the SPARC side needs the dhcp in 'boot net - 
>> install dhcp' since I would think that if bootparams failed then DHCP 
>> could be tried next. Or the otherway around.
>>
>> While I understand that groups maintianing the DHCP servers may not be 
>> interested in adding or setting Solaris options, is there anything 
>> specific about the Sun vendor options that makes them incompatible with 
>> the other DHCP servers out there?
>>     
>
> No, vendor options we have are very vanilla, however vendor options are 
> not widely used and thus many DHCP administrators are unfamiliar with 
> how to set them up.
>
>   
>> And If Sarah's listening, I'm not stuck on DHCP:
>>     
I am listening.

>> What I want is one place (NIS,NIS+,LDAP,DHCP,BOOTPARAMS or Something 
>> New,) to configure *ALL* the information for a network boot client.
>>
>> It should be the same for X86 and SPARC
>>
>>     
Agreed.

>> Preferrably, it would not be stored on the client itself (not in OBP on 
>> SPARC.)  Though that could be another option.
>>
>> It shouldn't require me to repeat/update the same info for every client 
>> over and over again, like I showed with my DHCP macro's in the previous 
>> Post. or maybe something a little more sophisticated than the '*' 
>> wildcard in bootparams?
>>
>> It should scale, and leave a managable configuration even when 100's or 
>> 1000's of clients are configured.
>>
>>
>>
>>     
All good suggestions.

>> As a slightly related suggestion, I would like to see GRUB (especially 
>> if it is to appear on SPARC) expanded to be more like OBP. Possibly by  
>> storing what is in bootenv.rc now in menu.lst, or by referencing from 
>> there.  the GRUB command line could be extended  so that  X86 could have 
>> something like 'boot net - install', or more importantly (if GRUB could 
>> read and use the contents of bootenv.rc) Solaris could actually make 
>> (the on disk GRUB - not PXEGRUB) honor a 'reboot -- 'net - install'' by 
>> automatically editing bootenv.rc before rebooting.
>>
>>     
Ok.

All good thoughts. I am listening and will take this in to account. 
Thank you for taking the time to articulate your thoughts.

Regards,
sarah
****
>>    -Kyle
>>
>>
>> I'd even suggest that if GRUB is the prefferred way to pass this stuff 
>> to the kernel, then maybe GRUB should do the lookup of this info? This 
>> would support diskless clients also wouldn't it, since the rootfs could 
>> be configured this way?
>>     
>
> Let's be clear: there is no plan to use GRUB on SPARC; the newboot-sparc 
> project uses a boot archive, but not GRUB.
>
> Thanks for the requirements list, I'm sure Sarah will take it into account.
>
> Dave
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