"Deprecating the use of the IPv4 ID field for non-reassembly uses
   should have little - if any - impact."

That statement wasn't true for very long was it...
Well section 9 may provide a way out.

"Network address translators (NATs) and address/port translators
   (NAPTs) rewrite IP fields, and tunnel ingresses (using IPv4
   encapsulation) copy and modify some IPv4 fields, so all are
   considered sources, as do any devices that rewrite any portion of the
   source address, destination address, protocol, and ID tuple for non-
   atomic datagrams [RFC3022]. As a result, they are subject to all the
   requirements of any source, as has been noted."

With the current draft incoming packets can have their id fields modified by
the SMF gateway before being forwarded in the MANET.  I would say this makes
the gateway a source.  Then we just need to fragment everything!  I can see
the reason for banning the behavior in high bandwidth wired links where
duplicates only occur with routing loops and the id wraps so fast it is
useless.  But the way this is written it bans ALL use of the IPv4 ID field
for duplicate detection.

"The IPv4 ID field is no longer permitted for duplicate detection." 

Does this mean we can't even hash this field for duplicate detection?!

> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf
> Of Teco Boot
> Sent: Wednesday, March 30, 2011 7:29 AM
> To: [email protected]; MANET IETF
> Subject: [manet] SMF and intarea-ipv4-id-update
> 
> Sorry for x-posting. But there is a conflict in:
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-manet-smf
> http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-intarea-ipv4-id-update
> 
> SMF has a duplicate packet detection function based on the IPv4
> ID field. So text in ietf-intarea-ipv4-id-update section 4
> is not correct, in that there would be no deployments for such.
> That said, SMF deployment with IPv4 DPD on IP-ID would be limited.
> 
> What to do?
> 
> Teco
> 
> 
> 
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