> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brian E Carpenter [mailto:brian.e.carpen...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2016 4:46 AM
> To: Joe Touch
> Cc: joel jaeggli; Xuxiaohu; Fred Baker (fred); Wassim Haddad; 
> int-area@ietf.org
> Subject: Re: [Int-area] Call for adoption of draft-xu-intarea-ip-in-udp-03
> 
> And being pedantic...
> On 31/05/2016 06:12, Joe Touch wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 5/29/2016 4:23 PM, joel jaeggli wrote:
> >>>> I.e., you MUST support source fragmentation at the ingress at the
> >>>> outer
> >>>> IPv6 layer (because UDP doesn't have support for fragmentation and
> >>>> reassembly). If you make this requirement, you can handle IPv6 over
> >>>> the tunnel.
> >> Yeah I don't support it for this reason. getting IP fragments back
> >> together in the same place a reassembled is hard is in some cases
> >> especially when you hash. (see frag drop) given alternatives that
> >> better address such situations it seems hard to justify.
> >
> > If you intend to support recursive IP tunneling* and believe that IP
> > has a minimum MTU, then you have to accept reassembly.
> 
> If you intend to support recursive datagram tunneling and believe that any 
> path
> has a minimum MTU, then you have to accept reassembly.

Let's take the Softwires network as an concrete example. What's the motivation 
for SPs to deploy recursive IP tunneling?

Xiaohu

> This is physics, and nothing to do with design details.
> 
> (Something I discovered in about 1983, when implementing OSI/CLNP at CERN
> over a homebrew network with 128 byte packets.)
> 
>    Brian
> 
> >
> > Joe
> >
> > * where "recursive IP tunneling" is IP in [zero or more other
> > protocols] in IP.
> >
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