So, you expect that we change the rules for you, or we should change them for everybody?
Rules have been defined by the community for a good reason. If we change the rules for everybody, then you should expect thousands of WGs being created every other day, with no consensus, lot of community time lost and nobody paying attention to the real work, so we could shutdown IETF. Regards, Jordi -----Mensaje original----- De: Int-area <[email protected]> en nombre de Khaled Omar <[email protected]> Responder a: <[email protected]> Fecha: martes, 12 de septiembre de 2017, 22:25 Para: Lee Howard <[email protected]> CC: int-area <[email protected]> Asunto: Re: [Int-area] IPv10. We can make the opposite, first creating a wg, then we will know who is interested to work on the IPv10 I-D. Khaled Omar -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [Int-area] IPv10. From: Lee Howard To: Khaled Omar CC: int-area From: Khaled Omar <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 at 9:17 AM To: Lee Howard <[email protected]> Cc: int-area <[email protected]> Subject: RE: [Int-area] IPv10. >After answering questions of people who send me e-mails publicly or privately the discussion stops at this point, that’s why I keep updating the I-D to make it more clear for other people reading the draft for > the 1st time. > >If there are people who want to work on IPv10, they need to say so. There can’t be consensus if only one or two people think a document is worth working on. If you have received private statements > of support, those people need to send messages to the list. > >Yes, they have to send to the list but some are asking if there is a wg for IPv10 or not. > > > There won’t be a working group unless there are people interested in forming a working group. Lee > > > > >From: Lee Howard [mailto:[email protected]] > >Sent: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 3:08 PM >To: Khaled Omar; int-area >Subject: Re: [Int-area] IPv10. > > > >What evidence do you see that there is consensus support for this? > >For an IETF document, it should get adopted by a working group (WG). If there is no existing WG which could include this in its charter, you might need to create a WG; Area Directors (ADs) would > want to see that there was broad support for the effort, and many people willing to work on it. I’m not an AD, but I would question one who thought there was consensus support for IPv10. > > > >If there are people who want to work on IPv10, they need to say so. There can’t be consensus if only one or two people think a document is worth working on. If you have received private statemetns > of support, those people need to send messages to the list. > > > >Lee > > > > > >From: Int-area <[email protected]> on behalf of Khaled Omar <[email protected]> >Date: Monday, September 11, 2017 at 4:53 PM >To: int-area <[email protected]> >Cc: intarea-ads <[email protected]>, intarea-chairs <[email protected]> >Subject: [Int-area] IPv10. > > > >>Hi all, >> >>Is IPv10 still not considered on your list of agenda, I think the discussion phase has passed. >> >>I would like thank everyone who participated or reviewed the IPv10 I-D, but still some steps of work to be done and the decision is out of my hands. >> >>I don’t know how consensus be calculated at the IETF and whom is responsible for its final decision, either still some work to be done for adoption or start publishing the I-D. >> >>Waiting for the coming meeting is not a good idea as there is a short time for the presentation and we may face another remote technical problem as occurred at IETF 98. >> >> >>Best regards, >> >>Khaled Omar >> >> >> >> >> >>_______________________________________________ Int-area mailing list >>[email protected] >>https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/int-area <https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/int-area> > > > _______________________________________________ Int-area mailing list [email protected] https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/int-area ********************************************** IPv4 is over Are you ready for the new Internet ? http://www.consulintel.es The IPv6 Company This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. The information is intended to be for the exclusive use of the individual(s) named above and further non-explicilty authorized disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited and will be considered a criminal offense. If you are not the intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited, will be considered a criminal offense, so you must reply to the original sender to inform about this communication and delete it. _______________________________________________ Int-area mailing list [email protected] https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/int-area
