Le 12/09/2017 à 16:25, Khaled Omar a écrit :
We can make the opposite, first creating a wg, then we will know who is interested to work on the IPv10 I-D.

People did something like this in the past. They were so happy to get their WG but without clear idea what to do in it.

WGs come and go anyway.

One may even create a very ephemeral assembly, in which a few people talk about the same thing, during few hours, and agree on next steps. It's a very elightening experience.

Alex


Khaled Omar


-------- Original Message --------
Subject: Re: [Int-area] IPv10.
From: Lee Howard
To: Khaled Omar
CC: int-area




    From: Khaled Omar <[email protected]
    <mailto:[email protected]>>
    Date: Tuesday, September 12, 2017 at 9:17 AM
    To: Lee Howard <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
    Cc: int-area <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
    Subject: RE: [Int-area] IPv10.

        After answering questions of people who send me e-mails publicly
        or privately the discussion stops at this point, that’s why I
        keep updating the I-D to make it more clear for other people
        reading the draft for the 1^st time.

        If there are people who want to work on IPv10, they need to say
        so. There can’t be consensus if only one or two people think a
        document is worth working on. If you have received private
        statements of support, those people need to send messages to the
        list.

        Yes, they have to send to the list but some are asking if there
        is a wg for IPv10 or not.


    There won’t be a working group unless there are people interested in
    forming a working group.

    Lee

        *From:* Lee Howard [mailto:[email protected]]
        *Sent:* Tuesday, September 12, 2017 3:08 PM
        *To:* Khaled Omar; int-area
        *Subject:* Re: [Int-area] IPv10.

        What evidence do you see that there is consensus support for this?

        For an IETF document, it should get adopted by a working group
        (WG). If there is no existing WG which could include this in its
        charter, you might need to create a WG; Area Directors (ADs)
        would want to see that there was broad support for the effort,
        and many people willing to work on it. I’m not an AD, but I
        would question one who thought there was consensus support for
        IPv10.

        If there are people who want to work on IPv10, they need to say
        so. There can’t be consensus if only one or two people think a
        document is worth working on. If you have received private
        statemetns of support, those people need to send messages to the
        list.

        Lee

        *From: *Int-area <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of Khaled Omar
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
        *Date: *Monday, September 11, 2017 at 4:53 PM
        *To: *int-area <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
        *Cc: *intarea-ads <[email protected]
        <mailto:[email protected]>>, intarea-chairs
        <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>
        *Subject: *[Int-area] IPv10.

            Hi all,

            Is IPv10 still not considered on your list of agenda, I
            think the discussion phase has passed.

            I would like thank everyone who participated or reviewed the
            IPv10 I-D, but still some steps of work to be done and the
            decision is out of my hands.

            I don’t know how consensus be calculated at the IETF and
            whom is responsible for its final decision, either still
            some work to be done for adoption or start publishing the I-D.

            Waiting for the coming meeting is not a good idea as there
            is a short time for the presentation and we may face another
            remote technical problem as occurred at IETF 98.

            Best regards,

            Khaled Omar

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