Hi Melinda, First of all, I share your sentiments. This mail is a last ditch effort to get this proposal away from intarea (in one of two ways). More details below.
> On Oct 4, 2017, at 11:22 PM, Melinda Shore <[email protected]> wrote: > > I'm somewhat astonished to see this email - I thought > the sensible thing to do would have been for them to go off > and self-organize and try to see if they can figure something > out in a non-IETF context, and bring the work back once (and/or > if) they've got something even a little bit credible. Given everything > else going on and given the extremely poor state of the work, > putting any organizational resources at all into this seems like > a bad idea and as if it might give false encouragement to the > author(s). The author requested a non-WG mailing list for this proposal on September 12 and I immediately rejected the proposal telling the author that there is insufficient interest to form a mailing list. He promptly forwarded my private mail to the list (You can see my message downthread in this message along with Lee’s message) https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/int-area/gOHqX4GU73uzoxTM_bQsXhrvW1E In that message it seemed that the author had realized that there is no support for his proposal and did not post further into the list. Then this message resurrected a dead discussion and people started having conversations about the future of IP itself while being on the same IPv10/IPmix thread. https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/int-area/fJ4_MpNFDhLm2GdBvoZE-FDTz0g Then the draft author saw this as support for his proposal and requested a mailing list again. https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/int-area/TWo2VU2wWYcD9TGyahneIithzKA This has all been very disruptive to the intarea mailing list greatly lowering the SNR. Something had to change. Initially, I was considering a PR action, but after careful consideration I realized that it was not applicable yet in this case. The goal of this mail is to establish the relevancy (or, as I suspect, irrelevancy) of this proposal and that will aid me in either moving it to a better home or to invoke PR action to put a stop to the disruption. Thanks Suresh P.S.: Yes, this is all a colossal waste of the organizational resources (taking countless hours of people’s time) but I am resigned to the fact that dealing with DOS attacks is the cost of openness. _______________________________________________ Int-area mailing list [email protected] https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/int-area
