On Wed, Dec 31, 2025 at 1:12 PM Brian E Carpenter
<[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I'm no expert, but I think the Security Area might have an opinion on this.
>
> Note that according to RFC 8221:
>
>     "The last method that can be used is ESP+AH.  This method is NOT
>     RECOMMENDED."
>
>     "ENCR_NULL status was set to MUST in [RFC7321] and remains a MUST to
>     enable the use of ESP with only authentication, which is preferred
>     over AH due to NAT traversal."
>
>     "As mentioned by [RFC7321], it is NOT
>     RECOMMENDED to use ESP with NULL authentication (with non-
>     authenticated encryption) in conjunction with AH; some configurations
>     of this combination of services have been shown to be insecure
>     [PD10]."
>
> That seems pretty close to deprecation already.

HI Brian,

Indeed. I'm looking forward to completing the formal deprecation and
removing the code from the OS (linux at least) :-).

Tom

>
> Regards/Ngā mihi
>     Brian Carpenter
>
> On 01-Jan-26 09:01, Tom Herbert wrote:
> > Happy New Year!
> >
> > I've posted a new draft that would formally deprecate the IP
> > Authentication Header. Any comments are appreciated.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Tom
> >
> >
> > ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> > From: <[email protected]>
> > Date: Wed, Dec 31, 2025 at 11:58 AM
> > Subject: New Version Notification for 
> > draft-herbert-deprecate-auth-header-00.txt
> > To: Tom Herbert <[email protected]>
> >
> >
> > A new version of Internet-Draft draft-herbert-deprecate-auth-header-00.txt 
> > has
> > been successfully submitted by Tom Herbert and posted to the
> > IETF repository.
> >
> > Name:     draft-herbert-deprecate-auth-header
> > Revision: 00
> > Title:    Deprecate IP Authentication Header
> > Date:     2025-12-31
> > Group:    Individual Submission
> > Pages:    14
> > URL:      
> > https://www.ietf.org/archive/id/draft-herbert-deprecate-auth-header-00.txt
> > Status:   
> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-herbert-deprecate-auth-header/
> > HTMLized: 
> > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/draft-herbert-deprecate-auth-header
> >
> >
> > Abstract:
> >
> >     This document deprecates the IP Authentication Header.  The
> >     motivations are that authentication without confidentiality is not
> >     compelling, the Authentication Header is incompatible with some
> >     commonly deployed protocols, and there is likely no deployment of
> >     Authentication Header.
> >
> >
> >
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