On 03.01.2026 00:21, Tom Herbert wrote:
On Fri, Jan 2, 2026 at 2:02 PM Eliot Lear<[email protected]> wrote:

On 02.01.2026 13:24, Tom Herbert wrote:

We cannot prove no one is using it, however given the fact NAT breaks
AH and AH would break checksum offload (at least in LInux) the vast
majority of billions of computers couldn't use AH even if they wanted
to.

Just an FYI- there are implementations that DO use AH that would not generally 
be impacted by NAT.  These would be used in site-to-site VPNs and with OSPFv3.  
 AH is recommended by at least two vendors for use with OSPFv3 (specifically 
with IPv6)[1,2] to match the advice given in RFC 5340 [3] that neither been 
updated nor obsoleted.  There are probably other RFCs hiding out there that use 
IPSEC as a crutch, given that was common practice in the 1990s and early 2000s. 
 If you're going to deprecate AH, you should probably do a little digging to 
see what we're in for.
Hi Eliot,

I understand how AH might be used with OSPF, but why would someone use
AH for VPN instead of ESP?

Sorry- you're right.  Mostly ESP is used for site-to-site, although AH is supported for that purpose (certain jurisdictions).

Eliot


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