Sure. IETF can

Tom



On Sun, Jan 4, 2026, 2:42 PM Eliot Lear <[email protected]> wrote:

> The rtgarea is a good place to discuss this.  Caution: writing a draft is
> the easy part.  Implementation is king.  Those closest to the
> implementations that use it will be the ones best able to judge whether the
> approach should be deprecated.  That's another way of saying, if they think
> it ain't broke, it probably should not be fixed.  Doing otherwise is likely
> to incur MORE maintenance costs on top of fresh code.
>

Eliot,

Sure. IETF can deprecate the protocol for new cases or make it a SHOULD NOT
to use, but it's up to individual implementations determine the actions
taken to best suit the needs of their users.

Tom

Eliot
> On 04.01.2026 22:05, Robinson, Herbie wrote:
>
> The OSPF working group has disbanded.  So, I suspect the responsibility
> lands here.  If work on this continues, someone needs to go through all of
> the references that have been graciously posted and document the
> alternative way to do it.  Which will most likely be to use ESP with no
> encryption.  (that is allowed, now).
>
> A less painful approach would be to declare AH “frozen”.  Frozen meaning
> that
>
> o attempts to integrate it with new work are not required.
> o Revising standards to fix existing problems is not a goal.
>
> And, of course, using ESP with null encryption is the alternative.
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Eliot Lear
>
>
> My point was that we can't on the one hand tell people to use AH and then
> on the other hand deprecate it.  So before we do this, someone over in
> OSPFland should update RFC 5340 with better advice.  Same for any other
> RFCs that play a similar IPSEC card.
>
> Eliot
>
>
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