See below: > -----Original Message----- > From: Jani Taskinen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 6:01 AM > To: Andi Gutmans > Cc: PHP Developers Mailing List > Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] RIP PHP 4? > > Andi Gutmans wrote: > > I'd suggest something close to what Rasmus suggested: > > a) We make a clear statement on PHP.net that at the end of > the year we > > plan to discontinue bug fixes for PHP 4 except for security fixes. > > b) We will discontinue supporting PHP 4 on 8/8/8 (because it sounds > > good and gives people about a year). > > Gives a year? Nice. Suddenly we've got some kind of time > machine here? :D > > It's weird that people think of releases like the thing > suddenly vanishes from all servers it's installed on or it > stops working altogether when we're just saying that we drop > support for it. I wish that WAS possible...but unfortunately > people still can install it from existing tar balls..and it > will work just fine.
It's not the same. Not giving our users enough heads-up to plan, find the resources, migrate, test and redeploy is what Microsoft does to its users (ok so they do give some time but it's always too early and upgrade path is often much harder). I think we owe it to our users to be more friendly. For this time period they will require important bug fixes especially security fixes so I think it ends up being good for all. Also don't forget once we make a statement like this, many people will start planning their migration right away. > > I also suggest to move PHP 4 downloads to the museum. I > suggest though > > to make a clear visible link from php.net/downloads.php to > the museum > > and make a clear statement that PHP 4 has moved (I am sure > there are > > still many who look for it for application compatibiity reasons). > > This to be done immediately? Yes, I think we should do this immediately and be sure to make it clear where to get PHP 4 (clear message with clear visible link). But it will still "feel" 2nd rate to users. Andi -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
