On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 10:39 PM, Lukas Kahwe Smith <m...@pooteeweet.org>wrote:

>
> On 20.06.2010, at 22:21, Lester Caine wrote:
>
> > ( Foregot to change address again :( )
> > Ilia Alshanetsky wrote:
> >> What are your views on including APC in the core, or reasons not to?
> >
> > Dictatorship?
> > Optional module which have well used alternatives should not be proced on
> by default! Probably more people use alternatives and have for years?
>
>
> probably not actually .. my guess is that the vast majority of users do not
> use any byte code cache today. this could be our effort to reduce co2
> emissions world wide.
>

Are you sure?
Usually installing an opcode cache is the first optimalization effort for
every php project.
I'ts easy, it's transparent, and can give a vast amount of performance
boost, so
- shared hosting providers install it, because they can oversell more
- ppl who can run dedicated server/vps usually knowledgeable enough to
install it right away



>
> +1 on adding apc to trunk
> +0 about enabling apc by default .. or rather undecided at this point.
>
>
I prefer xcache, but I think that its better adding apc to the core, than
nothing at all.
Why should this be disabled by default?

I never had any problem using xcache. Maybe that it has no gain if you only
use php for cli or cgi.

Tyrael

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