Pierre,

With all due respect, there are plenty of things already in trunk to
make it a worth while effort to start planning the 5.4 release. Just
because you disagree, an opinion you are entitled to (like everyone
else), does not mean it is a no go, last I checked no one had veto
powers on the future release process. Johannes had already outlined a
number of major features/changes in 5.4 branch that are IMHO are
definitely enough to start thinking about a new version. Waiting until
we got every feature, idea considered will take an indefinite amount
of time and unlikely to result in a release. Additionally, a really
BIG 5.4 with tons of features will take that much longer to make
stable that something with a more manageable changeset. 5.4 is not the
*last* PHP release, there will defiantly be others and those version
can encompass features that didn't make it into 5.4.

The "strict type / type hinting" discussion aside there definitely
appears to be a consensus among the core devs that 5.4 release process
should start.

On Wed, Aug 11, 2010 at 6:21 PM, Pierre Joye <pierre....@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 12, 2010 at 12:14 AM, Stas Malyshev <smalys...@sugarcrm.com> 
> wrote:
>
>> It'd be alpha, you have enough time.
>
> Is it really the new way to do things in php.net? Totally ignore other
> developers, discuss things privately, act like the last of the last
> and drop a mail to "officially" announce a new release/big change? And
> then we feel forced to act?
>
> I cannot talk for the other, but for me it is a no-go, period.
>
> I'm totally against an alpha at this stage. Not before we have
> clarified all we need to get a clean release.
>
> Cheers,
> --
> Pierre
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