On 03/09/16 22:53, Rowan Collins wrote: > I guess we could have a philosophical debate about what it means for > something to be "the standard" rather than "a standard", and whether > PEAR was "more official" than PHP-FIG, and just who gets to decide what > PHP is. > > But once again, I find myself being drawn into an off-topic debate about > coding styles, and I would like to apologise to Davey as it has nothing > to do with his RFC.
I think that what is missing is a discussion on just where one should start these days in terms of a basic framework for beginners. That there are so many competing "standards" that in many cases do not play well together is MY problem. That my key libraries ARE moving to a different style and have different ways of loading is a pull one way, and my web side interface has other loaders handling javascript and css packages which adds to the complexity. But perhaps we don't bother about the novice PHP user and just assume they are all simply using third party frameworks already so all that needs to be looked at is improving the library/framework developer experience. It would be nice to get back to some BASIC functionality such as loading a form, validating it's content, and string the results without having a dozen ways of filtering the inputs and a dozen ways of accessing the database. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
