Hi Gregg,

I didn’t intend to “take sides” but rather apologized that the thread wasn’t 
brought back to a constructive and friendly track sooner; it ran for a few days 
without comment from any of the IoTivity leadership (ISG or maintainers).  It 
took an unproductive turn relatively early on.  I think we (IoTivity 
leadership) should have been quicker to steer things back to a productive 
discussion, and that’s what I was apologizing for.  I’m sorry if it seemed like 
sides were taken.  I’m on the “side” of keeping it professional and friendly ☺

Thanks,
Nathan Heldt-Sheller, Intel Corp.
OSWG Pro-Tem Chair (at least for now!) (hah!)

From: Gregg Reynolds [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Thursday, June 7, 2018 2:07 PM
To: Heldt-Sheller, Nathan <[email protected]>
Cc: Clarke Stevens <[email protected]>; Morten Nielsen <[email protected]>; 
iotivity-dev <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [dev] Where are the devs?


On Thu, Jun 7, 2018, 12:03 AM Nathan Heldt-Sheller 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Morten,

Thank you for raising your concerns.  We do strive to be a welcoming and 
inclusive community of developers.  I apologize that the thread below wasn’t 
more closely and promptly monitored.

A few simple facts:

* A contributing member of the community (that would be me) was viscously 
attacked by another (contributing?) member, in very personal terms. (Opinion: a 
vile piece of character assassination.)

* A "leader" of the community responded by apologizing - to the attacker!!! He 
even took the trouble to sign his message *as* an official, which he does not 
normally do.

I'm not (too) mad, just mildly disappointed; after all this is the internet, 
the occasional dose of ad-hominem vitriol is to be expected. But I confess I 
expected (stupidly) something a little better from a putative "leader" of the 
community. Like, trying to defuse rather than intensify conflict? Taking sides, 
forgetting that there are two sides to every story - not really what I 
personally like to see in a leader.

He could have adopted a more irenic attitude. For example:

Dear <sir/madame>,

I'm sorry that you are upset, but I hope you will not let the opinions of one 
person sour you on an entire community. Also, in future please do not engage in 
personal attacks. If someone says something you find upsetting, you may find it 
more productive to a) take a breather; and b) explain in neutral language just 
what you found upsetting and ask for clarification. That way you give the other 
party the chance to clarify and/or make amends. After all it could be the case 
that you have misunderstood, or that the other guy expressed himself poorly, or 
that one or both of you was just having a bad day. Please try to stay focused 
on the issue, instead of villifying somebody you have probably never even met.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Principle_of_charity

I'm not going away mad. Anybody interested in the tooling, bug fixes etc. I've 
done is welcome to file an issue on OpenOCF. If you want to move any of that 
stuff to Iotivity I am willing to help.

By the way, ever notice that the ending of Ogre is the begining of Gregg?  
Coincidence?

Love,

Ogre(GG)

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